Should players start after stage 1 for bonus points?

Gameboy9 · Post by **Gameboy9** » Sat Jan 29, 2000 12:30 pm

I thought of this question when I saw the most recent recordings... but this evidence of starting after stage 1 to get bonus points exists all over the place, I think I'm even one person who's done that.


Should we allow starting at a higher level for bonus points or should be make them start at the very first level?



Why do I ask this? The biggest reason is that Twin Galaxies makes people start at the first level, no higher.



Oop, looking at the rules again, warping after starting at the first screen is allowed.



So my motion will be that you have to start at screen 1 period, but if you warp to a higher screen for higher points,(e.g. crystal castles, toobin') it's OK. Any debate?



Also, I want to establish which games would fall under starting at a higher screen at the beginning of the game,(probably major havoc and the star wars games for example) and which would fall under starting at level 1, then going to a higher screen?(probably toobin for example)



Thanks for reading

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seymour · Post by **seymour** » Sat Jan 29, 2000 12:30 pm

I was going to bring this up here when I got out of bed, but I see it
was already done

I don't have any problem with warping to a higher
screen while already in the game, but its the starting at a higher
level to get extra points that bothers me. I think the rules should
be that everyone starts at level 1. My recent upload (soldamj?) is
the only game I have done this on so far, partially to bring up this
point.

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Q.T.Quazar · Post by **Q.T.Quazar** » Sat Jan 29, 2000 12:30 pm

I don't agree with this. What's the difference between warping to
level 12 zillion on Major Havoc, or starting at 2 million on Soldam
(Japan)? The answer: about 12 seconds. This is too fine a hair to
split. Either we allow total freedom, or we restrict all warping as
well. And since I can't see warping being disallowed, it doesn't makes
sense for me to lose 50000 points in SnakePit just because I'm not
allowed to start at a level that I can easily reach. Advanced starting
points are there for a reason...it's because for some players,
reaching them normally would be a waste of time. While it's hard to
argue this case in Soldam, there are many other games where it is
readily evident.



And please, let's have no more motions or voting until the autofire is
cleaned up. MARP is about to have one hell of a huge vomit of scores
as it is.



Sincerely,
Q.T.Quazar

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game guru · Post by **game guru** » Sun Jan 30, 2000 12:30 pm

If u can walk into a arcade and obtain a larger score by starting at
a later level that is not cheating..



Basically, it does no harm...



Everybody can do the same thing and this would make it fair!



This is getting a bit silly now, I think it is fair to ban the
autofire technique, anything else seems fair though!!



(Unless your machine runs like a dog!

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Tim Morrow · Post by **Tim Morrow** » Mon Jan 31, 2000 12:30 pm

I don't think the question is silly or frivolous at all. Further I
believe discussion of the rules is always a good thing. I don't
suscribe to the argument that 'if you can walk into an arcade and do
it' that it's ok. You can walk into an arcade and perform a multitude
of actions to give your self an advantage in a game - some of them we
consider ok others we ban. As for being disadvantaged for not being
able to do start at the higher level - I disagree. You aren't
disadvantaged if everyone has to start from level 1.



Unfortunately in case of 'alternant start' games there are a wide
variety of games that allow this feature. In some games it is painful
to watch someone start on a high level that they can't handle (i.e.
lose all their lives in under a minute) and claim a high score. In
other games it would be painful to make someone sit through an hour of
the earlier levels just to prove that they can show mastery at the
more difficult levels - life is too short. In my opinion it is
probably best to leave this one alone and use the philosophy that when
you drop in your virtual coin into the game, if you are offered a
choice - select whatever takes your fancy, and may the highest score
win.

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game guru · Post by **game guru** » Mon Jan 31, 2000 12:30 pm

Nice comments Tim, lets stay away from this one......
There's too much going on at the mo anyway!

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