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*Autofire Vote - All MARPers Please Respond*

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by Q.T.Quazar
Since the beginning of the great MARP clean-up, a number of old issues have come floating back up to the surface. A number of players, MARP newbies and veterans alike, have been expressing their views on whether it is permissible to use autofire in a recording or not. Presented below will be four choices to vote for, based on the opinions circulating around MARP. Cast your vote well, as the result will become a binding rule at MARP.
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The choices are:

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1)"The games should be played as close to possible as the real thing. Nobody wants to learn from someone using Autofire, because it doesn't equire the same degree of skill." No Autofire recordings, period.

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2)"MARP is a fun site, and people are taking their leaderboard points way too seriously. Besides, autofire doesn't give an advantage on every game." Allow Autofire recordings, so long as it is listed in the description.

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3)"When did MAME emulate a fire button?" or "I have carpal tunnel syndrome" Allow autofire recordings, no description.

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qan@home.com

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by Gameboy9
Well... I believe in spirit of the game. If you use autofire, you
are violating the spirit of the game. In addition, we now have a
checker to check to see if autofire is being used or not. We should
NOT base everything on the checker however! I.E. even if the checker
says autofire is being used, you should still watch the game, and if
autofire is obviously being used, THEN you should say autofire is
being used.

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To make a long story short(I know... too late), I say #1, no autofire
recordings period.

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goldengameboy@yahoo.com

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by Chad
I would vote No to 1) 2) and 3)
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4) Allow autofire on regular marp but Enforce autofire banning for
tournament recordings or tgmame recordings. I think it would make
judging a lot easier, you'd only have to scrutenize (autofire/banning
techniques) to the recordings that were made with tgmame stuff. Thus
implying a more competative "new" leaderboard.

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churritz@cts.com

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by Q.T.Quazar
Chad, very few people want to start an entirely new leaderboard right
now, especially since a number of us are taking a lot of time to fix
up the old one. Tournament recordings aren't even a part of this vote,
the ruling there has already been decided, and TGMAME, like evry other
MAME will go through a long process of being
hacked/fixed/hacked/fixed/hacked. The only real remaining contentions
at MARP are Autofire and sub-speed recordings.

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Anyways, I vote #1, as if that were any surprise, being the purity
nazi that I am.

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qan@home.com

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by Chad
OK I'll vote #2, which is surprising since that would sort of make
my autofire detection obsolete for a lot of recordings. But i have to
, since it would make sense to only scrutenized the tgmame recordings
since the others can't be scrutenized completely.

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ok, maybe we'll let other people vote now.

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churritz@cts.com

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by Alex ( anti-autofire) Wei
"Auto..Auto...Auto...OUT ! OUT ! OUT ! "
So thats number 1 , I guess.

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ALEX

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alexweir@indigo.ie

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by Ben Jos Walbeehm
A short post from me for once. I vote for 1: No autofire, period.
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Cheers,
Ben Jos.

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walbeehm@walbeehm.com

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by Dave Kaupp
I'll vote 1.5.
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Its a toss up between 1 and 2. :)

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I'll put 1 officially.

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PS: The vote topic at
http://www.wintermute.nu/vote/results.php3?pollID=3 shows
13(one duplicate), 4, 2. 13 for a new leadearboard, 4 against, 2 not
decided.

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info@kaupp.cx

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by BBH
I vote #1: No autofire. On anything.
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-BBH

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lordbbh@aol.com

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by Bubble
I'de say no auto-fire. In fact, I'll talk to danmanya and see if we
manage to disable the auto-fire feature of emu+ when it's recording
an inp. The dude that makes the unnoficial mame32 with autofire could
probably be convinced to do the same, maybe if someone from MARP was
to send him an email about it?
Of course, this doesn't stop someone using an AF joystick though...

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bubble@mail.pt

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by Aquatarkus
Yes to #1.
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Aqua

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aquatarkus@digicron.com

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by BeeJay
A definitite vote in favour of #1. No auto-fire should be permitted
period!!

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BeeJay - who finally found that his MS Sidewinder Gamepad is useful
for something: faster running in Track 'n Field pounding on the
gamepad than I can get pounding on the keyboard keys. :-)

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brianjohnstone@jade.co.nz

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2000 12:30 pm
by Barry Rodewald
I'm voting for #1, no autofire at all, although it should only really
be enforced for those games where using autofire would be
advantageous. But I tend to lean more towards #1 than #2...

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bsr@hn.pl.net

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2000 12:30 pm
by stephen krogman
#1, enough said.<p>

Steve Krogman

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skrogman@bellsouth.net

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2000 12:30 pm
by Olivier Millardet
I'll vote #1. Like almost everyone

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olivier.millardet@wanadoo.fr