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Should players be allowed to skip the barrel stages by jumping off the side of the screen? just wanted to know what you thought.

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milehighdt@yahoo.com

I'm sure ben has a more eloquent answer than i would but i'm bored
since i can't see marp right now.

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I would think if the only way the level can be passed (some of the
impossible levels can't be with normal means) then it should be
allowed, otherwise it seems like a form of points leeching (since you
get all the time points for jumping off the screen so fast.)

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churritz@cts.com

I myself usually don't do it, except at L=22, because there, it's
impossible to finish the 25m otherwise. I don't think there's an
official ban on it (and if there were, it probably would have to make
an exception for L=22), and I don't mind if people do it. People in
the arcades did it all the time, so why should we disallow it in MAME?

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Ben Jos.

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walbeehm@walbeehm.com

Hmm... I don't think I'd consider it point leeching to jump through
the floor. I can get more points by finishing the 25m the regular way
and smashing barrels, especially on the first version of Crazy Kong.
The first version is the one without the missing pieces on the 25m. On
MAME, the ROMsets ckongalc, ckongs (to some extent), and monkeyd all
are the first version. The second version (with missing pieces on the
25m and fast conveyor belts on the 50m on L=02 and higher), sometimes
also known as Crazy Kong II, can be found in ckong, ckonga, ckongjeu,
and ckongo. It's not as easy in the latter because the 2nd hammer is
quite a bit harder to get.

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In addition, I'd hardly consider anything that finishes a screen
FASTER point leeching. Point leeching, IMO, is when you don't try to
progress through the game, but hold back for extended periods of time
to get more points.

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Either way, you can't leech too many points in CK anyway...

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Ben Jos.

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walbeehm@walbeehm.com

if u can walk into an arcade and perform this skip, then I see no
prolem with it?????

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games.guru@cableinet.co.uk

Here is how I see the issue:
Game Guru - Your statement holds no water at all. I can go into an
arcade and perform a 256 lives trick on many machines, or go ahead
and sit forever at one place and racking up points, but both are
certainly frowned on here.
About the point leeching - Anything that scores you more than what
the regular play of the game should score is leeching, aka cheating
to finish a level earlier for a bigger bonus, etc.

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cparsley1@hotmail.com

I can contribute an answer to the skip level trick on Crazy Kong.
It's this simple, if you plan on having your score recognized in the
Twin Galaxies Book of World Records, then I suggest the trick isn't
used. Even know players used it in the arcade, so did players use
the no-fire trick on Galaga and managed to have their 10's of
millions of point scores printed in video games and Joystick
magazines back in the days. Their will be a section on the next book
dedicated just for MAME. ALL GAMES WILL BE PLAYED ON THE RECOMMENDED
SETTINGS and if it doesn't say anything about using the skip level
trick then I recommend playing without it. NO Galaga scores will
make the book or web page and will get NO recognition if they have
been suspected to be done with the no fire trick, I think this
should apply with Crazy Kong. If it becomes a bigger issue, I will
call Walter Day and discuss this with him. Also, just a reminder, I
know for a fact that the majority of scores derived from
http://www.classicgaming.com/snipersarcade/ and
http://www.sniperarcade.com/cubeman/mame.txt will make the book for sure
because of how carefull they've been looked at. If you have a score
that you want to see in the book, send the inp to anyone of these 2
pages and if Mark and Ron varify the inp and find it meets the
criteria of TG, and it makes the top ten list, then it's in the
book. Their are alot of really good players and scores on MARP but
with all the contraversy going on over the past few months, I just
decided to take a pause for a while like Angry did untill I can
truley believe inps will be done without any form of cheating, or
anything that alters the game in any manner, othrwise I will just
play and build up my inp folder and wait for the right time to upload
them.

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Regards,
Steve Krogman

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skrogman@bellsouth.net