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Once again that level playing field we are trying to achieve is looking askew and slanted.
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I know this has been raised before but no general consensus or policy has seems to have been adopted. I am starting to reach new levels of frustation as I'm going through many recordings to find that non standard settings are being used (i.e. dip switch settings not deaulted). Even more annoying is that many of these recordings have been confirmed.

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I don't think that MARP's informal rule that all recordings be default or TG is making a scrap of difference. I think we need to be a bit more forceful about it.

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I have a suggestion on a way to handle the problem. If we aren't happy to discount non standard recordings as being illegal (and we haven't so far to my knowledge) then we can at least propose the following as a compromise:

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1. In most circumstances recordings should be Default or TG (TG must be explicitly stated).

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2. In the event someone feels they must upload non standard recording then at a minimum the non standard conditions must be explicitly stated and attached to the description field and placed in the associated zip upload.

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3. Finally, if at any stage a non standard recording is discovered without the associated statement of the fact, then that recording be deleted out of hand (which I prefer). Alternatively the uploader be given an opportunity (a week) to attach the relevant statement or the recording be deleted.

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Once again, my position is that NSR be removed as a general rule and only accepted in peculiar/specific circumstances.

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tjmorrow@bigpond.com

I Do agree with you Tim, but I'm afraid you're screaming to the
moon...!!!<br>
It is full of NSR, so classified for a number of reasons (Points
leeching, autofire, don't playback, wrong dip settings, etc.), but
nobody is doing nothing ! I always hear: "I'll do when someone else
does."....so nothing changes.<br>
I think it's too easy to state "Non default settings", or "Autofire
used", and then get hundreds of points!!! We do need a sort of
"authority", a "supervisor" (Zwaxy himself, or someone else with more
time than him), in charge of collecting "unconfirmations" of illegal
recordings, and empowered to delete inps, or reset scores to 0.<br>

Am I screaming to the moon too...!?!? Well...now we're two!

Cicca

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cicca@writeme.com

I second Cicca's motion. I also suggest that those who have the power
to confirm a game should also have access to the DIP settings
utility to check for DIPs - but not all confirmers should have the
right to edit scores.

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I guess that makes me the third person howling at the mo...
aroooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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goldengameboy@yahoo.com

I'm taking a seat right here in the amen - I mean hooooowl - pew over
here with Gameboy and Cicca.

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Aqua, who seems to be getting a much better birthday present than
expected

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aquatarkus@digicron.com

Now the head of the "howling at the moon" congregation comes forward
to lead the congregation in the ceremonial settings chant.

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Leader: On this day, as with all men being created equal, all MAME
recordings shall be done from the same original setup...
Congregation: As so to truly see who is the best.
Leader: The evil that is possible with changed .inp's are so great,
that one must disallow themselves the tempation.
Congregation: Lest ye be publicly shamed by the moon howlers.
Leader: One day, a great uprising will come upon the face of the
MARP. The only ones to survive will be the ones who...
ALL: Howwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwllll!!!!

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(Nice parody, but some day could be true!)

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cparsley1@hotmail.com

I know, I just ~know~ Zwaxy's going to show up with some kind of
Werewolves of London reference. Please allow me to steal his
thunder, heh.

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I'm for the idea, but I can't get too angry if people don't use
defaults or TG. It just makes it more challenging to beat them.
(Yes, yes, I know in some cases it makes it ~impossible~, but that's
on a game-by-game basis).

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Brian

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bmclean84@hotmail.com

Chris....great scene play....you'll never change....eheheheheh<br>
As men were created all equal (as you state, and I subscribe it), why
shouldn't they follow the same rules into the same
community...!?!?<br><br>Brian: I don't mind if someone plays with
harder settings (usually TG are), but using easier, or
autofire, or cheats, or leeching....shame !!! No challenge at all....
<br><br>Cicca

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cicca@writeme.com

Cicca, that 'Howling At The Full Moon' reference is dynamite -
everyone wants a piece of the action.

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I actually object harder dip switch settings being used too. The
problem is that for games that don't repeat (with fixed endings) the
harder settings may give more enemies/higher bonuses etc so that a
'default' recording can't compete - not good if we are proposing
default settings. Higher difficulty settings aren't a problem with
some games that just get harder (enemies take more hits and move
faster etc) but it is best to stick with the lowest common
denominator.

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I too agree with Cicca and the rest of the Howling Fraternity that we
need to nominate some supervisor(s) who can chew up and spit out the
NSR's. Now what do we have to do to make it really happen?

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Is it a full moon tonight? The pack is growing and the wolves are
getting restless and hungry ...

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tjmorrow@bigpond.com

Tim....welcome to the fraternity....ehehehe<br><br> You wish to know
what we could do now...!?!? Well....nothing !!! We can't do more
than make proposals, and howl....the more we are, the best.<br>Then
it's up to Zwaxy....if he thinks any proposal is applicable
(techincally and 'morally'), and if he has time, well, he'll
implement it....otherwise, nothing changes.....<br><br>Ciao<br>Cicca

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cicca@writeme.com