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OK...I left that thread to let you all "make the difference", and I decided to carry on this discussion publically, even if I preferred to receive such a flame (<Quote ON>your statements come
across as both rude and obnoxious <Quote OFF>....<Quote ON>This statement is both hypocritical and non-productive rhetoric <Quote OFF>)privately from you, QT.
When I proposed a submission regulation, I was told I've no right to decide which recording is "lame".....well, it seems you have the right to call my posts "lame": <quote ON>Cicca, let me state quite simply to you or anyone else thinking of making such a lame post: <quote OFF>.

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My post was not intended to flame you, but, in a way (in 1) and 2)), as an active Marper, to argument why I decided not to vote (and in democracy I have this right, it's not a matter of having <quote ON>the moral high ground<quote OFF> ), and, in another way (in 3)), to struggle the Marp community, to "discuss less and act more"....
BTW, could pls tell me where I said the list is silly...!?!?

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If YOU really believe in democracy, you should let me (and anyone else) contribute to any discussion, agreeing or not, but argumenting, and not offending (see quotes above) !!!

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PS: It's not strictly private as in the subject.....if anyone wants to comment about this, he is welcome.

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Most of your questions are answered back in the main thread. I've
given up on making it a voting only post

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As for a few points:

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You did not directly say the list is silly. You implied that it was "a
lot of words(and nothing more)" The two views would seem to
correllate.

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Your statements DO come across as rude and obnoxious. If someone
organizes a vote, and you want to spoil a ballot, fine. But you don't
run around telling other people that the vote is just so many more
empty words or Wild Western diplomacy. You don't yell out your
opinions when you're in a polling booth.

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Your statement WAS also hypocritical. You cannot claim to not be
voting because you have 200 points at stake, and then say that you are
not voting because this list is just more 'words' The two views
contradict each other. One is a statement of personal advantage, the
other is a statement of ethical preference. And if a statement is
hypocritical, it is generally non-productive (I'm an English major, so
I'm fairly sure of that point)

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To be perfectly honest, I don't believe in democracy either. I believe
in E.M. Forster's 'dictatorship of the plucky' (you can read this in
his essay -- What I Believe) I am only using democracy in this case to
try and give everyone an equal footing.

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This post is intended to answer most of your statements. I will
apologize for my rudeness in the main post. That was uncharacteristic
and childish of me. But I was angry, and wanted to get the message
across to other people thinking of posting that the thread was not
there for the purposes of being discussed, and I didn't feel much like
being eloquent about it. I know you will have things to say to me
after this post, so please, e-mail me privately, unless you feel that
I have said anything unfair inside this post which must be responded
to publicly to save face. You will find a new post under the voting
header that is slightly more apologetic.

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But then, QT, are you breaking that own "democracy to give every
player an equal footing"?
If they are easily copied, as I am assuming is the reason you want
them banned, then everyone could do so and, as you say, be on an
equal footing.
If you really want people on an equal footing, ban every single game
MAME emulates, as then everyone would be at 0. Is that equal enough?

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