Alrighty now, I finally got myself a DOSMAME client, 36b2, so I could enjoy the new games. (Super Hangon, Outrun, RELIEF PITCHER, Sunset Riders (Somewhat) and the Simpsons)
But, this emulator seems to auto bubble frameskips down to a frameskip of 8, even on my 350 machine.
I thought it was just the new games that were causing it, so I went and started the DOSMAME with Ms Pac-Man to verify my conclusion. To my shock, it played Ms Pac-Man on a Frameskip of 8 as well.
Before people say so, NO IT WAS NOT SET ON A FRAMESKIP OF 8, it was on auto frameskip of whatever worked the best.
Same machine, 2 minutes later, on WinMame, Ms Pac-Man runs nicely on Frameskip of 0!
Why is DOSMAME soooo bad if you all seem to cheer it every chance you get?
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Whoever told me DOSMAME is better than Mame32 had better tak
Moderator: Chad
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Chad
jamon, it's bad. janeow... janeow.. and the whole world wants to
tell you right now... who's bad!? couldn't resist.
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It's all in the properties of the dos window you run it in, the main
reason the dos mame is bettter is that it usually makes better
recordings and thus you can actually play things back more often if
you use the dos version to record and playback. also before i
thought win32mame performed better (i.e. F10ing plays back faster at
a higher % frame rate) but now it seems the dosmame gets the higher
frame rate.
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Also hitting up arrow,return with doskey is soo much nicer rather
than hitting alt-F,r or clicking on the record button in win32.
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It may take a while to get the settings right (not that i remember
what i did to get mine to work) but it is worth it to try. Maybe you
have frameskip set to 8 in mame.cfg? win32 doesn't use that but dos
does.
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tell you right now... who's bad!? couldn't resist.
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It's all in the properties of the dos window you run it in, the main
reason the dos mame is bettter is that it usually makes better
recordings and thus you can actually play things back more often if
you use the dos version to record and playback. also before i
thought win32mame performed better (i.e. F10ing plays back faster at
a higher % frame rate) but now it seems the dosmame gets the higher
frame rate.
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Also hitting up arrow,return with doskey is soo much nicer rather
than hitting alt-F,r or clicking on the record button in win32.
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It may take a while to get the settings right (not that i remember
what i did to get mine to work) but it is worth it to try. Maybe you
have frameskip set to 8 in mame.cfg? win32 doesn't use that but dos
does.
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Chris Parsley
Before I get more of these with preset to frameskip 8, let me once
again say it is set to AUTO FRAME SKIP, it just bubbles itself down
to a frameskip of 8 before it finds a stable place to run the game.
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again say it is set to AUTO FRAME SKIP, it just bubbles itself down
to a frameskip of 8 before it finds a stable place to run the game.
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BeeJay
Chris,
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I'll ask the dumb question now.... are you running Win95/98 or are
you running WinNT ?!
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If you're running WinNT then forget about trying to run the DOS
version of Mame unless you're prepared to do some tweaking with your
Commander settings for Mame..... and even then it will probably not
run as well as Mame32. I always use Mame32 on my WinNT machine and I
always use MameDos on my Win95 machine.
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If you are on Win95/98 then you probably need to start looking at
your settings as everyone I've talked to once they've figured out
their best settings for MameDos find it faster on most games than
Win32 Mame.
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BeeJay.
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PS: Use the standard soundblaster option not AWE even if you have an
AWE card. That often makes a big improvement to speed for those with
AWE Soundblaster cards.
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I'll ask the dumb question now.... are you running Win95/98 or are
you running WinNT ?!
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If you're running WinNT then forget about trying to run the DOS
version of Mame unless you're prepared to do some tweaking with your
Commander settings for Mame..... and even then it will probably not
run as well as Mame32. I always use Mame32 on my WinNT machine and I
always use MameDos on my Win95 machine.
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If you are on Win95/98 then you probably need to start looking at
your settings as everyone I've talked to once they've figured out
their best settings for MameDos find it faster on most games than
Win32 Mame.
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BeeJay.
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PS: Use the standard soundblaster option not AWE even if you have an
AWE card. That often makes a big improvement to speed for those with
AWE Soundblaster cards.
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Chris Parsley
Let's get the crazy answers out of the way.
Win98
350mhz
64MB Ram
Sound Setting #1 Soundblaster
Any other ideas?
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Win98
350mhz
64MB Ram
Sound Setting #1 Soundblaster
Any other ideas?
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Zwaxy
Do you have something running which is using the PC while MAME is trying to run? It may be that something is fighting with MAME for the processor, and slowing it down. I've found that DOS MAME runs slowly if I'm running some other programs at the same time, but in general it's faster than MAME32.
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Barry Rodewald
Try MS-DOS mode. You should get a noticeable speed boost there. For
me, The Simpsons runs at 100% with no frameskip. VESA modes are the
fastest, use those if possible. Even better if your video card works
with Scitech Display Doctor. Oh yeah, my PC is a PII-233 with 64MB
RAM and up until yesterday had a Cirrus GD5465 AGP card (I got a
TNT2, yesterday).
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As a comparison, MAME is the fastest, with MAME32 and X/MAME
(SVGAlib) close behind. Although my new TNT2 may provide better
results with MAME32, but I haven't tried it yet...
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- Barry Rodewald
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me, The Simpsons runs at 100% with no frameskip. VESA modes are the
fastest, use those if possible. Even better if your video card works
with Scitech Display Doctor. Oh yeah, my PC is a PII-233 with 64MB
RAM and up until yesterday had a Cirrus GD5465 AGP card (I got a
TNT2, yesterday).
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As a comparison, MAME is the fastest, with MAME32 and X/MAME
(SVGAlib) close behind. Although my new TNT2 may provide better
results with MAME32, but I haven't tried it yet...
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- Barry Rodewald
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Aquatarkus
Here you go Chris 
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The ANSWER: Time sharing. The autoframeskip adjusts every time MAME
can't display a frame at exactly the right time. This works perfectly
in straight DOS, but in windows the very short calls from minor
programs (like ICQ) make the DOS box pause slightly so MAME raises
the frameskip when it's not neccessary. This is also why I do not
like recording in windows, even though it's feasible with my current
machine
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HOW TO FIX: Hit F11 to display the frameskip during your first game.
Use F8 to find a skip setting that MAME reports as hovering around
100%. For later games start off with the -frameskip X switch so it
doesn't use the autoframeskip.
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ie. mame mspacman -frameskip 0
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You can change the MAME.CFG file so it starts with frameskip 0 (or
whatever you need most of the time) instead of autoframeskip. It's
something like FRAMESKIP=-1
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Have fun,
Aqua
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The ANSWER: Time sharing. The autoframeskip adjusts every time MAME
can't display a frame at exactly the right time. This works perfectly
in straight DOS, but in windows the very short calls from minor
programs (like ICQ) make the DOS box pause slightly so MAME raises
the frameskip when it's not neccessary. This is also why I do not
like recording in windows, even though it's feasible with my current
machine
<p>
HOW TO FIX: Hit F11 to display the frameskip during your first game.
Use F8 to find a skip setting that MAME reports as hovering around
100%. For later games start off with the -frameskip X switch so it
doesn't use the autoframeskip.
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ie. mame mspacman -frameskip 0
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You can change the MAME.CFG file so it starts with frameskip 0 (or
whatever you need most of the time) instead of autoframeskip. It's
something like FRAMESKIP=-1
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Have fun,
Aqua
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Chris Parsley
To continue as I told gb, when I did so Aqua, the computer virtually
froze. Max speed when I did that was lucky to run at 5%.
Next suggestion, as I don't see WinMame32 coming out soon...
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froze. Max speed when I did that was lucky to run at 5%.
Next suggestion, as I don't see WinMame32 coming out soon...
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Aquatarkus
Three step solution<p>
1. Sledgehammer
2. Return pieces for refund
3. Use refund for new PC
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Aqua
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1. Sledgehammer
2. Return pieces for refund
3. Use refund for new PC
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Aqua
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