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I have said in earlier posts that there is no difference between the dotron & dotrone chipsets. The chipsets may or may not be relevant, but how the Environmental/Upright switch is - not just over the number of lives.
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Key Differences (between switch settings, both using the dotron chipset) :

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1. Upright - Sark can't tell what vertical level you are/were aiming at, and can be fooled as long as you keep the horizontal correct. Environmental - Sark knows both the vertical & horizontal levels you are/were aiming for.

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2. Upright - Sark tends to aim his groups of three shots close together. Environmental - Sark spreads the group of three shots over about twice the horizontal distance as the Upright Sark.

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3. Upright - Sark throws the seekers together and waits for them to die before going back to throwing discs. Environmental - Sark throws the seekers much further apart, and remembers he can throw a disc with two normal seekers out.

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There are probably more, but that's what is obvious at the moment. Still, it should be enough to show Chris Parsley & I have a valid concern about the TG settings. As for the MARP Tournament, there are a lot of recordings to redo if it gets switched to Upright so I don't expect it to be changed now, but let's try to be more careful next time

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Aqua - who has a trackball again

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aquatarkus@digicron.com

Are you saying that even if you recorded it as dotron, the switch
could be set to Environmental, when it really should be set to
Upright. According to your difference Upright seems easier... If
that's so we should put "Cabinet : Upright" in the Long Name game
description of the dotron trounament entries.

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churritz@cts.com

You've understood what I'm saying correctly.
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What complicates things is at the levels I can currently reach, 45k
to 50k, scoring points seems about evenly difficult. But a better
player, or one with a different style, or maybe even me with more
practice might see a way to make one version significantly easier.
To prevent that, only one of the two dipswitch settings should be
allowed. I think this matters a lot more to the Twin Galaxies records
than to the MARP Tournament. There's no forced historical precedent
here, we can just pick one of the two settings and make it official.
TG has to make sure the current settings match the old, and for Discs
of Tron that means if the machines used were uprights this dipswitch
must also be set to upright.

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Aqua

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aquatarkus@digicron.com

Even though it looks easier on paper (via Aqua's detailed difference
description) the game seems just as difficult. But a decision
proly should be made which settings (Upright/Environmental) to make
the recordings in since the differences are there?

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churritz@cts.com

Chris Parsley,
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I really need you to review these DOTRON recordings and get back to me
so we can decide what to do about this issue!

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laffaye@ibm.net

Hm, I played both (environmental and upright)of dotron and I couldnt
see any difference between Sark's action like quoted in your post,
Aquartarkus. You're sure about this?!??!

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rough

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adamsky@gmx.ch

Rough,
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I must admit now that I've played the different switch settings more
I do notice the subtle differences that Aqua mentions in the original
posting. I also find it easier - hence my improved score using
upright so I'm not complaining about having to re-record my game.

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BeeJay.

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bjohnstone@cardinal.co.nz