About Street Hoop scores

[tk2007]

I m trying to watch the first and second scores of Street Hoop...I wasted 3-4 hours so far with no result
Chad told me that there is problem because they didnt remove the nvram and memcard files before recording.
So, is there any way to watch these playbacks or we have to believe them as they are

[Chad]

actually it's because the playbacker didn't remove these files before watching them. the recorders did remove them and that's why we can watch them as long as the playbackers (us) remove memcard\memcard.000 and nvram\strhoop.nv

[tk2007]

Ok then, if we cannot see these playbacks and we cant check if they are real or not, I think u should delete them.
My score is real and playable.

[Chad]

i can see them, they playback fine. if you follow the directions you can too.

del memcard\memcard.000
del nvram\strhoop.nv

tgmame strhoop -playback strhhoop

I've confirmed the first two place scores above yours, so you'll have to find another way to win.

This is one strike against the first two recordings, you need two other people who can't play it back to delete/zero it. Of course if i find someone else who can follow the directions, these are confirmed for good.

[Zhorik]

actually it's because the playbacker didn't remove these files before watching them. the recorders did remove them and that's why we can watch them as long as the playbackers (us) remove memcard\memcard.000 and nvram\strhoop.nv

Ok then, if we cannot see these playbacks and we cant check if they are real or not, I think u should delete them.
My score is real and playable.

When Chad says the "playbacker" didn't do something necessary to watch the replay, he means you, tk2007, didn't do something necessary to watch the replay. This is a confirmed score, which means a trusted person, a MARP confirmer, was able to get the replay to playback. Maybe something should be deleted, but I don't think it's the replay.

One thing to keep in mind on this game is that the ROMs changed since this replay was made, so make sure you're using the ROMs that were current for the version of MAME used to make the recording.

-George

[Chad]

zhorik is right, if your tgmame says INCORRECT checksum or ROM missing, then you might have a newer version of the roms. But i think it's because you haven't removed the volitile files mame creates, in order to play these back.

[BBH]

Ok then, if we cannot see these playbacks and we cant check if they are real or not, I think u should delete them.
My score is real and playable.

Old confirmed scores aren't deleted except in outstanding circumstances, such as a change in special rules.

Anyway I'm not sure what the problem is here, both Mike Myers' and Predator's recordings playback fine here and I have no memcard or nvram directories, and default bios (I don't think the memcard thing was a problem until much later in the MAME cycle). It may very well be a problem with the romset itself, but... when was the romset last changed? Mine works fine in these older versions and 0.117.

[Zhorik]

Anyway I'm not sure what the problem is here, both Mike Myers' and Predator's recordings playback fine here and I have no memcard or nvram directories, and default bios (I don't think the memcard thing was a problem until much later in the MAME cycle). It may very well be a problem with the romset itself, but... when was the romset last changed? Mine works fine in these older versions and 0.117.

According to MAWS the only change since .70 was in .109. I'm fairly sure I've got the newer romset and while I can run the game in both .70 and .114 with this romset, I haven't been able to get the 1st place recording to playback. Not sure if that is the problem though.

[tk2007]

I followed the instructions but cant play the playbacks.

If u tell me for sure that these playbacks work properly on u, the I ll try more...
If its about new rom version then I ll try the new rom version.

This is one strike against the first two recordings, you need two other people who can't play it back to delete/zero it...

this sounds like joke... the point is : Does this playback works? yes or no? Its not about 3 or 33 people to confirm it.
If yes then I appreciate if u tell me how. I tried many hours with no result. I want howsoever to watch these playbacks because they have crazy scores...

tgmame strhoop -playback strhhoop

Version is Alphamame 070.
If I write what u told me then I get
"'tgmame' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file".

In your pm u wrote "strhoops"...

If I write
del memcard\memcard.000 or
del nvram\strhoop.nv
then I get
"The system cannot find the file specified".


The error msg I get in the Run box is
"failed to open strhoop for playback"

[Zhorik]

I followed the instructions but cant play the playbacks.

If u tell me for sure that these playbacks work properly on u, the I ll try more...

For sure these playbacks work properly for me and others.

This is one strike against the first two recordings, you need two other people who can't play it back to delete/zero it...

this sounds like joke... the point is : Does this playback works? yes or no? Its not about 3 or 33 people to confirm it.

I understand that all you care about is whether the playback works for you. However, replays will not be zeroed on MARP if other people can get them to playback, even if you can't figure out how to get a replay to work. If that rule sounds like a joke to you, you might want to try a different replay site or start your own.

If yes then I appreciate if u tell me how. I tried many hours with no result. I want howsoever to watch these playbacks because they have crazy scores...

tgmame strhoop -playback strhhoop

Version is Alphamame 070.
If I write what u told me then I get
"'tgmame' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file".

In your pm u wrote "strhoops"...

If I write
del memcard\memcard.000 or
del nvram\strhoop.nv
then I get
"The system cannot find the file specified".


The error msg I get in the Run box is
"failed to open strhoop for playback"

Chad had a couple of mistakes with his directions. It looks like you don't have enough technical chops to bridge the gaps.

Let's try it this way, when you spent hours trying to get the replays to work, what exactly did you do and what messages and results did you see? If you can explain what you did and what happened, we can try to diagnose what you're doing wrong.

-George

[tk2007]

For sure these playbacks work properly for me and others.

I though u said

...I haven't been able to get the 1st place recording to playback

And never talk for the others. Let them talk themselves.

I understand that all you care about is whether the playback works for you. However, replays will not be zeroed on MARP if other people can get them to playback, even if you can't figure out how to get a replay to work. If that rule sounds like a joke to you, you might want to try a different replay site or start your own.

U can't understand what am I talking about, so u say nonsenses.
The "joke" is that u dont need 3 persons to verify if a file is fake. If its fake then its fake. Why u need 3 persons to say its fake? And if its not fake and 3 persons say "its fake" this means it will be automatically fake?

'My care' is if the playback works for EVERYONE. And about myself, I tried hard make it work, this doesnt satisfy u? I asked for instructions and spent many times to obey them, what more do u want me to do??

Chad had a couple of mistakes with his directions. It looks like you don't have enough technical chops to bridge the gaps.

Ok then just give me the correct directions. Respect my time.

Let's try it this way, when you spent hours trying to get the replays to work, what exactly did you do and what messages and results did you see? If you can explain what you did and what happened, we can try to diagnose what you're doing wrong.

In my previous post I wrote all the messages and results I see.
I m talking for the playback of Street Hoop-1st place.
Plz first verify that u can see it yourself. Then tell me exackly what I have to do, so that I can see it myself too!

[BBH]

U can't understand what am I talking about, so u say nonsenses.

Now see, this is exactly what I was talking about in the other thread about you insulting people. Show some more respect for other people if you want them to "respect your time".

The "joke" is that u dont need 3 persons to verify if a file is fake. If its fake then its fake. Why u need 3 persons to say its fake? And if its not fake and 3 persons say "its fake" this means it will be automatically fake?

The 3 person rule is needed so that recordings aren't hastily disqualified. Just because it doesn't playback for you doesn't mean that it's automatically a "fake" (I highly recommend you stop throwing this word around in regards to people's recordings). When one person can't playback a recording, there's always the chance that there is an incorrect setting somewhere, they might have NVRAM enabled, etc. When three people can't play it back, then it becomes less of an isolated incident.

[Zhorik]

For sure these playbacks work properly for me and others.

I though u said

...I haven't been able to get the 1st place recording to playback

At the time I hadn't. I was making the mistake Chad pointed out of not deleting NVRAM. I should have made that more clear. Once I deleted NVRAM I was able to play the file back fine. So basically I followed the instructions. Like you should.

And never talk for the others. Let them talk themselves.

Well, let's see, on this thread both Chad and BBH said they played back for them. I'm not talking for them, they already spoke for themselves. Maybe you didn't read their posts?

I understand that all you care about is whether the playback works for you. However, replays will not be zeroed on MARP if other people can get them to playback, even if you can't figure out how to get a replay to work. If that rule sounds like a joke to you, you might want to try a different replay site or start your own.

U can't understand what am I talking about, so u say nonsenses.
The "joke" is that u dont need 3 persons to verify if a file is fake. If its fake then its fake. Why u need 3 persons to say its fake? And if its not fake and 3 persons say "its fake" this means it will be automatically fake?

You just don't get it do you? As I said before, "If that rule sounds like a joke to you, you might want to try a different replay site or start your own." Just because you are not sufficiently competent to get a replay to work, doesn't mean it's fake. Speaking of fake, are you the same tk2007 that got caught cheating over at strike-team.net? He sure writes a lot like u do: http://strike-team.net/forums/lofiversi ... 21115.html

'My care' is if the playback works for EVERYONE. And about myself, I tried hard make it work, this doesnt satisfy u? I asked for instructions and spent many times to obey them, what more do u want me to do??

Well for starters you could have explained in more detail what steps you already took like I asked before. Not all of us saw any PMs Chad sent to you so we don't know what all you obeyed. If all you did was what was in your previous posts, I can't understand how you spent 3-4 hours.

Chad had a couple of mistakes with his directions. It looks like you don't have enough technical chops to bridge the gaps.

Ok then just give me the correct directions. Respect my time.

Ok, try this:
1) From Internet Explorer open Tools->Internet Options
2) Select the Security tab
3) Select the Restricted sites icon, then click on the Sites button
4) Type marp.retrogames.com, then hit Add, then OK.
5) Press OK to exit the Internet Options dialog.
Now, you'll no longer have any problems getting MARP replays to playback!

If you're using another browser than Internet Explorer, let me know and I'll give you instructions for that browser. If you don't feel like you have enough time to do this or think you don't have the required technical skills, you can mail me your computer and I'll take care of it for you.

Cheers,
George

[Weehawk]

Ok, try this:
1) From Internet Explorer open Tools->Internet Options
2) Select the Security tab
3) Select the Restricted sites icon, then click on the Sites button
4) Type marp.retrogames.com, then hit Add, then OK.
5) Press OK to exit the Internet Options dialog.
Now, you'll no longer have any problems getting MARP replays to playback!

If you're using another browser than Internet Explorer, let me know and I'll give you instructions for that browser. If you don't feel like you have enough time to do this or think you don't have the required technical skills, you can mail me your computer and I'll take care of it for you.

Actually a much better solution (and it will solve the problem here regardless of what browser he is using) would be to go to the folder at:

Windows Vista = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
Windows XP = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
Windows 2K = C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
Win 98/ME = C:\WINDOWS

Depending on which OS he is using, and open the file "hosts" (no extension) using notepad, then add the lines:

127.0.0.1 marp.retrogames.com
127.0.0.1 forums.marpirc.net

to the end of the text, then "save".

He should be sure to add both lines, then restart his computer. Problems over!

[tk2007]

Ok, u two guys seems u have not something to do and u waste your time writing nonsenses...u better get a job and stop disturb me.
Zhorik, u still cant understand what I m talking althought I explained. Your iq must be low

"If that rule sounds like a joke to you, you might want to try a different replay site or start your own." Just because you are not sufficiently competent to get a replay to work, doesn't mean it's fake.

No, no and no. I never said that. Your low iq brain says that.
I m not the tk2007 of your link.

Not all of us saw any PMs Chad sent to you so we don't know what all you obeyed.

U dont trust Chad? U dont believe hes able to help? At least he tried while u did nothing, just writing nonsenses.

BBH, u sound like u have problems... all the time u r after me. U dont help this way and u force me make posts to correct the wrong things u write all the time trying to insult me.

Now see, this is exactly what I was talking about in the other thread about you insulting people. Show some more respect for other people if you want them to "respect your time".

Respect is what u must have in order to receive it back. Your friend insulted me first so I had to answer him. Dont try all the time to support people who attack me and create problems.

Just because it doesn't playback for you doesn't mean that it's automatically a "fake"

Or u didnt read my previous msg or u cant understand. I never said that. Plz read my previous post.
If 3 persons cant play a playback but other 33 can play it, then what happens? this is the joke.

From now on if I accept new insults I ll answer same way. Are there any moderators or it is a jungle?

If some1 knows how to make the 1st score playback of Street Hoop to work then I m glad to hear it. But no more flames from the same people who just want waste some time