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Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:35 pm
by ben.shinobi
mmmh... not bad luck, is just bad play !!!

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:34 pm
by ZeroMax
Such nice thing to see, that you have turned this thread into battlefield 8).
I really enjoyed reading all and thanks for the inp Ben, I'm going to watch it later =D>
I remember the top score of shinobi at my local arcade place it was a troll, done with 19 coins just to check if counter stops on 999999, score was 1000800 :roll:
Maybe you can achieve it soon just with single credit - Good Luck.

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:01 am
by ben.shinobi
ZeroMax wrote:Such nice thing to see, that you have turned this thread into battlefield 8).
This is exactly I dont want to to...I don't play video games to get N°1 score, I don't care of top score score on any games (for me, a high score is just a reference)...That's why I dont play with wolfmame and doesn't want to send inp on twin galaxies or marp. The only thing that can interest me is to share infos with other players...But it's difficult with few of them...

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:51 am
by ZeroMax
Ok i watched the inp.

Boss 2-4 and Boss 3-4 "easy" to glitch and get the 20k bonus.
Maybe boss 2-4 to use the shurikens on the ninjas and score more points, but gonna be hard to count :s ?
And boss 4-4 still no way to glitch it?
(Maybe a way to get it offscreen with magic or jump over it?) Surely needs testing if it's possible at all.

Sadly this bug could of worked with Shadow Dancer, but bosses there don't give 100k points if you kill them without shurikens.

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:26 am
by ben.shinobi
ZeroMax wrote: And boss 4-4 still no way to glitch it?
(Maybe a way to get it offscreen with magic or jump over it?) Surely needs testing if it's possible at all.
Sadly this bug could of worked with Shadow Dancer, but bosses there don't give 100k points if you kill them without shurikens.
For boss 4, I've already worked on it but I can't find any 100% safe pattern (but is possible...). Maybe Syno have already find a way to make the pattern safe... however, we will never know from him...
Did you try this bug on shadow dancer ? I will try later. But as you already said, there is no way for 100k bonus on any boss for SD. even if you dont use any shuriken as here:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xf9rn5 ... videogames

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:51 am
by ZeroMax
I'm not good in shinobi but i just tested boss 4 used cheats to reach him :p
At the begining i started walking towards left and reached the end of the room.
Then the boss started coming to me slowly he doesn't attack at all times just charges slowly towards you.
And when he is close to me then he swings with his sword. At this moment i just jump and avoid being hit.
This can be done as many times as you want just but can be deadly if you mess up the jump.
While the boss retreats few steps and charges again towards you this is the time when you use the shurikens and count.
This boss can be failed so it might be good first to get his life to 2 points then counting the shoots to 256 and just finish him with magic.
Unless you have absolute faith that you can hit him with remaining shots then magic might be saved.

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I have disabled the cheats for boss battle but still doesn't feel right.
So this might not work on proper run.

YEP CONFIRMED - cheats(INVINCIBILITY)remain active even if disabled :) But feel free to test it on proper run.

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:14 am
by GHEMANT
SHINOBI HI-SCORE HISTORY:

760.090 GMC-ALECK-ALX
762,690 Destructor
767,170 Danacol
774,920 Alpha
793,240 海王みちるさん
803,840 Ben Shinobi

Pause

808,190 Ben Shinobi
810,260 Syg-Sino

After TRB discover:

832,820 Syg Sino
838,100 Ben Shinobi (but the score comparation is not possible with Syg's score, because with mameplus is different because F10 during leeching phase = less tension / apprehension psycological).

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:15 am
by dan
Nice play, Ben.
GHEMANT wrote:SHINOBI HI-SCORE HISTORY:

760.090 GMC-ALECK-ALX
762,690 Destructor
767,170 Danacol
774,920 Alpha
793,240 海王みちるさん
803,840 Ben Shinobi

Pause

808,190 Ben Shinobi
810,260 Syg-Sino

After TRB discover:

832,820 Syg Sino
838,100 Ben Shinobi (but the score comparation is not possible with Syg's score, because with mameplus is different because F10 during leeching phase = less tension / apprehension psycological).
info:
760.090 GMC-ALECK-ALX--- PCB
762,690 Destructor---------- wolfmame
767,170 Danacol------------- wolfmame
774,920 Alpha---------------- wolfmame
793,240 海王みちるさん------ ThunderMAME
803,140 Ben Shinobi--------- PCB
808,190 Ben Shinobi--------- PCB
810,260 Syg-Sino------------- PCB
832,820 Syg Sino------------- PCB
838,100 Ben Shinobi -------- mameplus

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:05 pm
by destructor
shinobiXboX360 wrote:
destructor wrote:
because I tell him ALL secret...
Do you tell ALL secret only to Ben by private messages?
Hello Destructor,

yes, I discuss shinobi game with Ben in private message... :)
Why you don't want to show all your secrets for all players? Do you want to die with your secrets? I show all secrets what I know. Time for you.
More players will know secrets - better analyse is possible.

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:30 am
by ben.shinobi
destructor wrote: Why you don't want to show all your secrets for all players? Do you want to die with your secrets? I show all secrets what I know. Time for you.
More players will know secrets - better analyse is possible.
Yes is true but you could easily ask the same question to Syno...
I think he only found one big secret (that maybe nobody have found) that I don't show in my last inp. This secret is not reveal at the moment simply because we work on it at the moment. Don't worry Des, every shinobi players will know very soon...

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:32 am
by ben.shinobi
ben.shinobi wrote:
destructor wrote: Why you don't want to show all your secrets for all players? Do you want to die with your secrets? I show all secrets what I know. Time for you.
More players will know secrets - better analyse is possible.
Yes is true but you could easily ask the same question to Syno...
I think he only found one big secret (that maybe nobody have found) that I don't show in my last inp. This secret is not reveal simply because we work on it at the moment. Don't worry Des, every shinobi players will know it very soon...

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:39 am
by destructor
This secret is not reveal simply because we work on it at the moment
Maybe tell me what secret and where. I have time for analyse.

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:35 am
by ben.shinobi
destructor wrote:
This secret is not reveal simply because we work on it at the moment
Maybe tell me what secret and where. I have time for analyse.
Mission 4-4 (Lobster boss). sure that if you find something here, you will reply...

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:11 am
by ben.shinobi
842.700 pts on INP file: http://benjamin.bouloch.free.fr/shinobi ... 0.86u3.zip
Many little mistakes with hostages rescue and also poor patterns on bonus stage 3 & 4. About between 5k and 7k lost.
dan wrote: 832,820 Syg Sino
838,100 Ben Shinobi (but the score comparation is not possible with Syg's score, because with mameplus is different because F10 during leeching phase = less tension / apprehension psycological).
info:
760.090 GMC-ALECK-ALX--- PCB
762,690 Destructor---------- wolfmame
767,170 Danacol------------- wolfmame
774,920 Alpha---------------- wolfmame
793,240 海王みちるさん------ ThunderMAME
803,140 Ben Shinobi--------- PCB
808,190 Ben Shinobi--------- PCB
810,260 Syg-Sino------------- PCB
832,820 Syg Sino------------- PCB
838,100 Ben Shinobi -------- mameplus
Thanks for the Shinobi top score history Gemant !!! But I don't feel less tension with PCB, mameplus, wolfmame or other emulator. The only diference for me is I can win time for a single credit !!! about+50min for a real play (pcb) and about 35/40mn with F10 speedup with the silly leeching. The pressure is clearly not on the leeching phase on 2-1...But I believe that I see what you mean.

Could you tell us the top score history before the first score you write (760.090 GMC-ALECK-ALX--- PCB) ??
I think also, there was other top score in Japan gamecenter between the Michirun score (793.240) and my first +800k ? Can you confirm ?

Re: Shinobi - tips, tricks, faq

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:47 am
by destructor
I can say that playing with F10 key on stage 2-1 is much easier than normal play. Without F10 key, player is more tired.