Buttermaker wrote:New confirmers are sometimes very enthusiastic and go on confirming sprees just for the sake of confirming. They will settle down eventually. Some stay hot though, hehe.
yes, I realize this. John is the most enthusiastic one yet.
P4 at 2448 MHz. Nosound, nothrottle, fskp 11. 657310 points after 3 minutes.
Ok, that overall is close to half of the gametime....so to watch it to completion would take you no more than 10 minutes.
I hope you aren't thinking that since you were only to 1/5th of the final score that you were only 1/5th of the way through playing back the replay.
I think those people are in the vast minority. This is the MAME Action Replay Page. It's not meant for people to simply list their scores. People come here to watch replays.
I disagree here. Yes, it's a replay site, and for many being able to watch replays of highly skilled gamers is cool.
Other than for the purpose of confirmation, how many inps do you really think have been viewed? No one is going to download and watch a 12th place score for a game.
MOST scores submitted here are for the purpose of being part of the scoreboard...and part of the leaderboard. I seriously doubt those scores are being submitted with the purpose of others watching their average or worse gameplay.
That describes most MARP members.
And that's the problem with replays (basically) nobody can watch like inps that don't work or Mac inps. Those replays are pointless. If people want to list their scores they should go to TG.
For replays that don't work I agree, but my Mac inps do work. It's just to view many of them you need a mac. so what? Think of it this way. There aren't many macmame players here cuz they want to be able to view replays here..but can't view most. My collection of replays I have at MARP now is a good start for many games for others using macs to view.
It's not my fault replays for many games aren't cross-platform compatible. As I posted previously, if I have time this summer, I might start looking into developing a macwolfmame where the replays would be compatible with the pc wolfmame. That wouldn't help the tons of replays using older versions though.
This would be great....much better than trying to get me to say screw macmame and MARP just be for PCs only. That's not any kind of solution.
BTW, all the compatibility issues I have read for pc inps between those using different OSes or with/without sound etc. isn't an issue with macmame. macmame inps playback same regardless of OS(well, the version used must run in that OS.) and all these games like centipede, Major Havoc, etc. where pc-mame players must play without sound, isn't an issue in macmame. I have yet found a game that has sound where I had to play without sound for the replay to playback successfully in macmame.
That issue in pc-mames must annoy you.
There are tons of PC inps recorded using versions of mame MOST don't have the old rom sets to be able to view. There are lots of xmame inps here too. MOST don't have linux installed to be able to view the xmame inps.
There are many inps here recorded on PCs that some can view ok, others can't. For many, it seems the OS you are using is a factor.
So...when you add all of that up...most can't watch several inps here anyway...not just mine. All those other issues far outnumber my macmame inps that you can't watch.
The biggest complaint isn't that a large number can't view certain replays. It's that the scores can't be confirmed. Scores that are confirmed, yet many can't view the replay file don't seem to cause an issue.
Chad has suggested I try xwolfmame and build it for x-windows that runs on macs. Ok, let's say it even works great...and the replays are all cross-platform compatible with xwolfmame on pcs(remains to be seen). That would allow for the scores to be confirmed, but MOST still wouldn't be able to view most of my inps. It doesn't change that aspect of it much at all. The emphasis seems to be more about confirming the scores so the SCORES on the SCOREBOARD are shown as confirmed.
They also? Do you mean the scores are being looked up through #marp also or is there a connection to the people who save the high score listings to their HD?
The point is many just lookup the scores for games. They aren't doing those lookups to download and view the replay file, but to see the top scores for the game so they know what to go for themselves.
The people in #marp use the %lb command of course (if it was working, hello seymour) but that doesn't mean they view MARP as a high score listing-only site. It's also a good way to show people a funny description you found.
I never said it was a scoreboard only. It's not just a replay site only either which seems to be the point you are trying to make.
I think overall, cuz of my above statements, it's mainly a scoreboard site. Only those that have all versions of mame installed and all various rom sets and a few different OSes can view almost all of the inps here. That likely is only a couple confirmers and editors.
Sure, there are some that likely view lots of replays and view replays for a game before they even really play the game. That's fine. I'd bet they are only viewing the top 1 or 2 places though. That means 90+% of all replays here at MARP aren't viewed by anyone else other than a confirmer to confirm the score.
Like I said though: Replay Site. Just looking at a number means nothing to me. I like basketball. I don't enjoy staring at NBA.com's scoreboard much and I don't read many recaps.
That's you. That's some others too. That's fine. That's not everyone.
In most cases, I see a newly uploaded score, and it has me check out the game..or is like a challenge for me to try and match or beat it. If I am able to get a decent score and generally at least a top 3 score, then I'll submit a score for the game. There are lots of games I tried...and with a few hours of playing, still couldn't do very well on...so I stop playing it and don't submit any score for it. There are many other games I can't even submit scores for cuz I can't run the game at 100% speed.
Yes, that's a great aspect of MARP. I would be very annoyed though if somebody whose replays I couldn't watch was competing against me.
Well, again that's you. Look at the Decas. People compete there. If they submitted to MARP then you can watch their gameplay. If they submitted to the DECA ref directly then you don't get to watch the replay...which is most of them.
They still like the competition.
Gaming is competition. Take away the competition aspect of gaming, and gaming wouldn't be nearly as fun. Trying to beat each other's SCORES at MARP is the competition.
and then it either gets confirmed or removed. Then there are some long marathon scores *COUGH* Bomb Jack *COUGH* that haven't been confirmed for ages. WRX2 once tried to make a point about some unconfirmed inps.
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