MAC conversions

Phil Lamat · Post by **Phil Lamat** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:24 pm

LordGaz has made a converted inp for Rick Carter's pacman score which playbacks correctly with m60

The beginning of along serie I hope

kranser · Post by **kranser** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:51 pm

Wow! That is amazing!!

That is the main MacMAME inp that I've been wanting to see - but thought that I never would (without a Mac!).

I'd been thinking that MacMAME was using different Random Numbers to the windows version, and that it was therefore impossible to convert the INPs, but LordGaz has proved this theory wrong!

Thanks heaps LordGaz for this fantastic feat. I don't know how you did it, but I'm very glad you did!

Kranser.

LN2 · Post by **LN2** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:36 pm

Phil, I was given control of that and making it available.

I was going to have a web page with details and screenshots of key spots etc. as well as the inp file for macmame and pc-mames.

I guess that's all moot now.

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:37 pm

Good work Gaz and LN2!!!!!!

I liked "lick the pink" and "breath of red" in your pattern

Chad · Post by **Chad** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:08 pm

dang gaz, you are God Gaz now! I removed the header from your conversion and it's not the same inp file, what did you do to the inp file to get it to work??

signed
-very curious and very needy of the conversion program.

**EDIT** not to mention those are some stellar skills! I wouldn't quite say it's not a pattern but it's certainly more grouping method than a pattern, very cool.

LN2 · Post by **LN2** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:13 pm

The TJT wrote:I liked "lick the pink" and "breath of red" in your pattern

I assume you mean my 9th key pattern.

Yeah, the first half of it is really solid and cool I think. I just developed a pattern for the sake of getting to the split-screen.

I could likely further develop the second half of that pattern to make it faster. The first half of it is really fast.

The "breath of red" I guess you mena is where red is on my butt and pops/reverses off of it just before killing me.

When I run the 'complete" pattern there actually is a facial of red right at the very end. I'm not sure if I ran that total pattern at all in that inp.

I hesitate near the end before getting the left-bottom energizer to finish the board. The complete pattern actually just goes right over to that left-bottom energizer hitting it almost exactly the same time they pop/reverse with a facial on the red monster.

If you are slow any of the last 5-10 turns you die doing that though...so in running it for the split-screen I felt it wasn't necessary so do that safer half a second sit before finishing the board.

Post by **mahlemiut** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:45 pm

Chad wrote:dang gaz, you are God Gaz now! I removed the header from your conversion and it's not the same inp file, what did you do to the inp file to get it to work

By adding a couple of dummy frames to the beginning. I've tried the same trick with some of Rick's other inps, without any success.

LN2 · Post by **LN2** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:45 pm

Barry, I think a similar thing will work for my Marble Madness inps.

I was able back then to add some padding near the beginning and have it actually play the first maze ok instead of going into service mode.

On the second maze the fact it's a little bit out of time sync shows as a collision happens with the ball that doesn't in the actual gameplay so it's off sync.

Padding it with a couple frames of dummy data similar to what Gaz did for pacman likely would get the timing right. The only issue then would be on later mazes if the pseudo-random stuff there would be the same or not.

Post by **mahlemiut** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:52 pm

Tried that. Didn't work for me. It'd be quite difficult to get analongue games working like this, as analogue ports are only written to/read from the inp as the game wishes to.