Outrun - Offroad or not.

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 9:36 pm

You're right.

The pattern would always be the same if you took the same turns at the same speeds..THAT'S what I meant.. BTW how the hell does Hisa accellerate so fast from the starting line? That might be the key in itself right there..

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 11:59 pm

Defcon= 7

Skyline wrote:You're right.
The pattern would always be the same if you took the same turns at the same speeds..THAT'S what I meant.. BTW how the hell does Hisa accellerate so fast from the starting line? That might be the key in itself right there..

I will teach it here if not-ban will win at this poll.

P.S.
How much do we need??
I recognize 66% players wants to change, rule will change.
(I need 34%+)is it right???

Spike777 · Post by **Spike777** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:02 am

I have two questions for Outrun players :

First, I tried to do the trick but it didn't work. I made a low-high gear shift as fast as possible, what am I doing wrong ? Is there a particular timing ?

Second, at the end of stage 5 (the fifth stage of the classic right-left-right-right pattern), sometimes the road goes down and sometimes it goes up. Is it a random thing or is there something I can do to choose the way the stage ends ?

Otherwise concerning the gear trick, I think that the best thing to do is to make two rankings, one with the trick allowed and one with the trick forbidden. I understand Hisa when he speaks about the "spirit of outrun" : I imagine that in Japan everybody plays the game that way since it has been discovered (a long time ago I assume), so it became something the game can't be imagined without. Of course outside of Japan, we see the game differently because we played it in another way. That's why I think we should make 2 rankings, that way everyone will be able to enjoy the game the way they want.

Chad · Post by **Chad** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:07 am

Novice wrote:Defcon= 7

How much do we need??
I recognize 66% players wants to change, rule will change.
(I need 34%+)is it right???

yes, 33.333333333333334% is all that is needed to stay the course, up until the 7 day vote is over. 66.666666666...% is needed to add the new rule. It will be very close and votes "will" be checked for gang voting. Looks like all votes are unique so far.

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:21 am

Defcon= 7

Spike777 wrote:I have two questions for Outrun players :
First, I tried to do the trick but it didn't work. I made a low-high gear shift as fast as possible, what am I doing wrong ? Is there a particular timing ?
Second, at the end of stage 5 (the fifth stage of the classic right-left-right-right pattern), sometimes the road goes down and sometimes it goes up. Is it a random thing or is there something I can do to choose the way the stage ends ?
Otherwise concerning the gear trick, I think that the best thing to do is to make two rankings, one with the trick allowed and one with the trick forbidden. I understand Hisa when he speaks about the "spirit of outrun" : I imagine that in Japan everybody plays the game that way since it has been discovered (a long time ago I assume), so it became something the game can't be imagined with. Of course outside of Japan, we see the game differently because we played it in another way. That's why I think we should make 2 rankings, that way everyone will be able to enjoy the game the way they want.

First,I am very glad challenger (like you) appears to try it by yourself.
Too quick also fails. reasonable timing must be master by yourself.
cannot teach well for everyone.
High-(0.2seconds.)Low-High. I do not know 0.2seconds is right or not.
it require original rythm.
second, no you cannot choice you must go left load.

I do not want to make 2 rankings. because "using" ranking must be lonely one.

outrun has 3 same versions. (Japanese version has original map, but it still not apply yet).
I will seek the spirit of OUTRUN at set 1.set 2 and 3 is for other spirit.

I will delete other versions replay if this trick will be able to stay on the marp.

Chad · Post by **Chad** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:30 am

If the ban does not pass, that is a great rule, one clone to use the trick and others to not use it. I would certainly enjoy seeing both types of recordings by Hisa :)

LN2 · Post by **LN2** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 4:22 pm

Yes, I would be happy with that kind of thing also. If set 1 was set for using the trick but set2 and 3 playing it without the trick that would be cool. I had said earlier the trick is cool etc. just wasn't fair scoring wise to those that didn't want to use the trick.

As far as his quick start off the starting line, watch and listen to his inp closely and you pretty much see the key to that.

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 5:51 pm

Yes, sounds good, if at set 1 you can do the offroad trick and other sets you can not. Suits for me. Only thing is I'm not so interested in playing right now

I have not done the fast start trick at mame, and I believe it requires some kind of analog input/pedal, not only on off position for gas...When you start, don't go full speed, keep the pedal halfway pressed or so, that should be the trick. If Hisa is unwilling to confirm this, I will be happy to ask my 51 Million ontheroad friend about it, he knows, and remembers...

What kind of controller Hisa(or novice or whattever ttyf) uses for Outrun?
I did my worthless scores using mouse...

Francois Daniel · Post by **Francois Daniel** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 12:34 am

The TJT wrote:Yes, sounds good, if at set 1 you can do the offroad trick and other sets you can not. Suits for me. Only thing is I'm not so interested in playing right now ...

I agree too for make the trick only on one set. So, all will be happy.

The TJT wrote: I have not done the fast start trick at mame, and I believe it requires some kind of analog input/pedal, not only on off position for gas...When you start, don't go full speed, keep the pedal halfway pressed or so, that should be the trick. If Hisa is unwilling to confirm this, I will be happy to ask my 51 Million ontheroad friend about it, he knows, and remembers...
What kind of controller Hisa(or novice or whattever ttyf) uses for Outrun?
I did my worthless scores using mouse...

So, I'll stay a worthless player because I don't think I have an analog input one day

Tommi, when you say Start, it's for a fast start on the beginning of the game ?

Francois

QRS · Post by **QRS** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 1:59 am

Just remember that the poll still stands..voting yes or no about the trick. Allowing one set to use the trick will only be an issue if the trick is allowed after this poll.

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 5:31 am

Francois, yes in the beginning/start of the game. This is for wheels not to roll on one spot/leave rubber/ whatever the right word would be in English.
QRS, yes.

After the poll interesting point will rise: Which was the rule to be changed: Which option requires 2/3 votes!
Do you really get a new rule with 1/3 votes, chad...

Marp democracy-a good joke!
Hahahahahahahahahaha

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 6:36 am

About outrun tricks, easter egg:

http://www.outrun.org/other/arcade.html

LN2 · Post by **LN2** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:20 am

The TJT wrote:After the poll interesting point will rise: Which was the rule to be changed: Which option requires 2/3 votes!
Do you really get a new rule with 1/3 votes, chad...

"No" requires 2/3rds cuz the game currently has no special rules which implies all tricks are allowed currently.

If "no" wins then that game will have special rules added saying you can't use that off-road without losing speed trick.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:39 am

Defcon= 6

The TJT wrote:Francois, yes in the beginning/start of the game. This is for wheels not to roll on one spot/leave rubber/ whatever the right word would be in English.
QRS, yes.

After the poll interesting point will rise: Which was the rule to be changed: Which option requires 2/3 votes!
Do you really get a new rule with 1/3 votes, chad...

Marp democracy-a good joke!
Hahahahahahahahahaha

current rule is Reasonable.
to change rule should be required much more than half votes.

Marp democracy is jokefully strong!!
My poll is not morethan yours.(even if you can not do anything by yourself.)
and my poll is not lessthan someone's(even if he is an arcadia record holder.)
This is Democracy.

In my opinion, Ban poll which from "can not prove its unfair by one's skill" should be ignored.(current score is 16-0) but I accept and obey the rule of democraty.
Do you know the word "Democracy", TJT?

do not worry. you do not have any chance to win at this game.

even if which poll wins...

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:49 am

Defcon=7

QRS wrote:Just remember that the poll still stands..voting yes or no about the trick. Allowing one set to use the trick will only be an issue if the trick is allowed after this poll.

Do not worry QRS!
you also do not have any chance to win!!

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