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If Nicola drops the games, then they will be dropped from the list. We
don't play Raine or Callus games here just because they are or were
emulated. As much as I agree with many of the statements made, games
which were designed SOLELY for the purpose of gambling have little
place in MAME and even less here at MARP.

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Furthermore, I disagree that Poker Ladies or Mahjongg are the same as
gambling games. Both of these games have a stage progression, whereas
Golden Star or Super Casino do not.

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Finally, holding onto these games would require players to keep YET
ANOTHER version of MAME on their computers to record scores for them.
Mine currently has mame34 for old unrecordables, TGMAME3 for
tournament play, and MAME32v.36b16 for normal recordings. This is in
addition to versions I have to download to confirm recordings
(currently final .35win and .36b10win) I'll be damned if I'm keeping
another sucker on my hard drive.

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I don't think that the vast majority of the MARP community has any
qualms about dropping the gambling games. And I'm sorry if it affects
people's leaderboard position, but it gets me too.

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Sincerely,
Q.T.Quazar

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qan@home.com

QT/Crash, thank you for making my point for me, since the game isn't
going to be available in the future, we are to forget it was there?
If by that logic, old non-recordable games anymore shouldn't be
allowed on MARP either as they are not able to be done normally on
current version either.
The excuse of having another MAME version on your HDD doesn't hold
any water, as you already hold one for old Sega recordables.
I used Poker Ladies as a reference to the fact that it and something
like Champion Skill are virtually the same game, except Champ Skill
doesn't have a slut (oh, excuse me, dealers that will get naked) in
it. Just because it is dressed up a little more than the others,
doesn't mean it's not a gaming game.

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I went to mahjong and others as an extension of how insane it is to
eliminate a game simply it is of one catagory of game, and how it
could be applied to others.

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cparsley1@hotmail.com

This may or may not be like other games have been removed. But
Parsley is right, there are a bunch of "clones" and "bootlegs" that
get removed and they are still allowed on marp, obviously not
recordings of versions of mame that don't support them.

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However, there is the support in marp to keep old clones by renaming
them to current mame version names. But there is not support for
keeping games/clones that no longer have a current mame version game
to rename them too. So, it would seem the games that no longer have
a current mame name will be stricken because marp just may not be
able to support this.

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churritz@cts.com

Chad, this I'm glad to hear, as its at least news to me. I thought
all romsets simply had their names changed when the rom images were
modified. If anyone wants to send me a list of romnames at MARP no
longer supported by MAME, I'll make sure they get axed too.

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Ciao.

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qan@home.com

There may not be many at the moment, since usually when a game
is "removed" from mame, it's simply because it's a name change. i.e.
scrambles to scramble or what ever it was... But i think kingofbj is
the only one i know of. It's not in current mame but there's
recordings of it from older versions. However it just may be that it
is the same as one of the ringking, ringkin2, or ringkin3 clones that
wasn't renamed yet. I.e. the kingofbj recordings should get moved to
the correct game name.

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I think this deserves a vote though, to see who wants to keep
recordings of old mame versions that are no longer supported in new
ones. It may have some merit, to keep old recordings.

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churritz@cts.com