It's done.
<p>
All the problems of T2 have been addressed.
<p>
ALL of them.
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cubeman@iname.com
Mame TG3
Moderator: Chad
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Gameboy9
Tubular! I have to thank Mark for all he has done especially for the
upcoming tournaments.
<p>
Eh? Tournaments? Yeah... this version will be the ONLY legal
version that will be allowed in T3. No official windows versions
(like we have in T2) will be allowed.
<p>
Since this release is a MAME 35 FINAL release I believe(correct me if
I'm wrong Mark), think about this when you vote for your three games
in the next tournament.(that motion did pass...)
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goldengameboy@yahoo.com
upcoming tournaments.
<p>
Eh? Tournaments? Yeah... this version will be the ONLY legal
version that will be allowed in T3. No official windows versions
(like we have in T2) will be allowed.
<p>
Since this release is a MAME 35 FINAL release I believe(correct me if
I'm wrong Mark), think about this when you vote for your three games
in the next tournament.(that motion did pass...)
--
goldengameboy@yahoo.com
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Tommi Tiihonen
Could somebody refresh my memory, what were the differences to
official version. Atleast no pause, and not that "rerecording"-cheat
possibility. What else?
<p>
Can you still use moslo, and getaway with it?
Is it possible to see what framerate did someone have during
recording?(If yes, what would be the "speed limit"? -I never get 60
fps, but something like 59,77774 or 57,xxxx -even though pressing F10
speeds up the game to 350% etc.)
Can you spot autofire?(thinking of next torment and,...well you know
which game)
<p>
Good that someone does something solid to level the playing arena!!!
--
tiihoto@hotmail.com
official version. Atleast no pause, and not that "rerecording"-cheat
possibility. What else?
<p>
Can you still use moslo, and getaway with it?
Is it possible to see what framerate did someone have during
recording?(If yes, what would be the "speed limit"? -I never get 60
fps, but something like 59,77774 or 57,xxxx -even though pressing F10
speeds up the game to 350% etc.)
Can you spot autofire?(thinking of next torment and,...well you know
which game)
<p>
Good that someone does something solid to level the playing arena!!!
--
tiihoto@hotmail.com
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Cicca
Great Mark !!!!<br> Starting from T3, we'll have a maybe more
difficult, but surely a <b>real</b> tournament....actually I believed
also T1 was not so 'cheating infected', but maybe I'm too confident
in others fairness, or maybe it was not so evident !!!<br>Anyway, a
good piece of news indeed !!!<br>
To Tommi: TG Mame features are : no pause (or
pause_blanking_the_screen ....Mark knows...), no 'rerecording',
framerate encrypted in each frame in the .inp, and eventually
somenthing else Mark will tell us....<br> Autofire is another
problem: I doubt it could be prevented, but it's evident enough to
refuse those games in which it's used !!!
<br>Thanks again, Mark !!!<br><br>Cicca
--
cicca@writeme.com
difficult, but surely a <b>real</b> tournament....actually I believed
also T1 was not so 'cheating infected', but maybe I'm too confident
in others fairness, or maybe it was not so evident !!!<br>Anyway, a
good piece of news indeed !!!<br>
To Tommi: TG Mame features are : no pause (or
pause_blanking_the_screen ....Mark knows...), no 'rerecording',
framerate encrypted in each frame in the .inp, and eventually
somenthing else Mark will tell us....<br> Autofire is another
problem: I doubt it could be prevented, but it's evident enough to
refuse those games in which it's used !!!
<br>Thanks again, Mark !!!<br><br>Cicca
--
cicca@writeme.com
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Alex Weir
Well done Mark !
Maybe at some future date , all MARP contributions would HAVE to use
this new TG version ? That`s one for Zwaxy. Admittedly , I do use the
pause button on some games , but not for any advantage, but simply as
stated before , to answer the door , answer the call of nature etc..
but for any Tournament I may be involved in ( i.e Deca 2000 at
Snipercade ) this TG version would be great. Of course , I`d have to
make sure I don`t answer my doorbell..etc. But 'Tournament' play
really emulates the arcade environment...( i.e NO doorbell, NO wife
to answer to , NO dog to walk etc..!! , and no nipping off to the
toilet....groan ).
It`s a pity that this new version can`t 'officially' or '
technically' detect Auto-Fire ( I think ? ). It still sickens me that
apparently skilled players on some games , have the gaulle ( and the
shame ) to use Auto-Fire and other dubious methods on other games, at
the expense of others` honest game-play.
They know who they are ( so do I ).......
Tim is right about his NSR`s . I agree with him 100%. I always check
my recordings before submitting ( so if any don`t playback , well
then I don`t know why ).
I`ll be making my last submissions to MARP this weekend sometime (for
a while anyhow ), because I`ve basically run out of games to play.
And as opposed to submitting ' lame' scores ( hey ! , I potted 2
balls in Gimme A Break ...type of thing ).....I`m off to practice.
Lets hope that in the meantime the 'honourable' cheaters out there
will find that ' edit ' link , and delete their scores to zero.
<p>
If we can find peace in Ireland , than surely we can find peace at
MARP ?
I hope so......
Once again , congrats Mark on your acheivements thus far.
Later.....
--
alexweir@indigo.ie
Maybe at some future date , all MARP contributions would HAVE to use
this new TG version ? That`s one for Zwaxy. Admittedly , I do use the
pause button on some games , but not for any advantage, but simply as
stated before , to answer the door , answer the call of nature etc..
but for any Tournament I may be involved in ( i.e Deca 2000 at
Snipercade ) this TG version would be great. Of course , I`d have to
make sure I don`t answer my doorbell..etc. But 'Tournament' play
really emulates the arcade environment...( i.e NO doorbell, NO wife
to answer to , NO dog to walk etc..!! , and no nipping off to the
toilet....groan ).
It`s a pity that this new version can`t 'officially' or '
technically' detect Auto-Fire ( I think ? ). It still sickens me that
apparently skilled players on some games , have the gaulle ( and the
shame ) to use Auto-Fire and other dubious methods on other games, at
the expense of others` honest game-play.
They know who they are ( so do I ).......
Tim is right about his NSR`s . I agree with him 100%. I always check
my recordings before submitting ( so if any don`t playback , well
then I don`t know why ).
I`ll be making my last submissions to MARP this weekend sometime (for
a while anyhow ), because I`ve basically run out of games to play.
And as opposed to submitting ' lame' scores ( hey ! , I potted 2
balls in Gimme A Break ...type of thing ).....I`m off to practice.
Lets hope that in the meantime the 'honourable' cheaters out there
will find that ' edit ' link , and delete their scores to zero.
<p>
If we can find peace in Ireland , than surely we can find peace at
MARP ?
I hope so......
Once again , congrats Mark on your acheivements thus far.
Later.....
--
alexweir@indigo.ie
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Mark Longridge
I think the auto-fire can be spotted by any judge.
<p>
I'll probably make a few other modifications, right now it's ALWAYS
showing the frame rate on screen. Everyone will let me know what
they think I'm sure.
<p>
If anyone has one of these "slo mo" programs and can send me one
I'll check it out with regard to the frame rate. FPS will not be
effected by turning off the cache, but slomo programs, I'm not
certain how they will effect the program.
--
cubeman@iname.com
<p>
I'll probably make a few other modifications, right now it's ALWAYS
showing the frame rate on screen. Everyone will let me know what
they think I'm sure.
<p>
If anyone has one of these "slo mo" programs and can send me one
I'll check it out with regard to the frame rate. FPS will not be
effected by turning off the cache, but slomo programs, I'm not
certain how they will effect the program.
--
cubeman@iname.com
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Chad
very cool indeed. The sun is starting to shine on marp again.
<p>
Mark, i dunno if you're trying NOT to advertise your site
, but
it's proly good to cut and paste the URL where you can actually get
MameTG3, now i have to use a bloody search engine.
<p>
Autofire is sometimes difficult to spot. Zwaxy and I have made a
program that can help a judge make a more concrete decision for
determining what recordings are more likely to have been recorded
with autofire or not.
<p>
If anyone has an autofire mechanism and would like to help, please
mail me (churritz@cts.com) three recordings of the same game (any
game any mame version just tell me which, but preferably a game that
needs banging), (1) made with using autofire constantly, (2) made
with using autofire for some of the recording and hand banging the
rest, (3) no autofire used just your skin and finger nails.
--
churritz@cts.com
<p>
Mark, i dunno if you're trying NOT to advertise your site
, but it's proly good to cut and paste the URL where you can actually get
MameTG3, now i have to use a bloody search engine.
<p>
Autofire is sometimes difficult to spot. Zwaxy and I have made a
program that can help a judge make a more concrete decision for
determining what recordings are more likely to have been recorded
with autofire or not.
<p>
If anyone has an autofire mechanism and would like to help, please
mail me (churritz@cts.com) three recordings of the same game (any
game any mame version just tell me which, but preferably a game that
needs banging), (1) made with using autofire constantly, (2) made
with using autofire for some of the recording and hand banging the
rest, (3) no autofire used just your skin and finger nails.
--
churritz@cts.com
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Chad
the first type of test .inp we want should read: (1) with autofire
on at all times (you don't have to hold the autofire down for the
whole recording, just don't turn autofire off)
--
churritz@cts.com
on at all times (you don't have to hold the autofire down for the
whole recording, just don't turn autofire off)
--
churritz@cts.com
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Tim Morrow
Great news guys! Well done! Mark I have emailed you a copy of Moslo
(dos) and Turbo (win). I hope this new TG3 exe comes up trumps and
can detect bogus recordings using them. Let us know how you fare.
Pardon my ignorance but it hasn't been mentioned so I have to ask -
can the new exe determine what dip switch settings are being used?
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tjmorrow@bigpond.com
(dos) and Turbo (win). I hope this new TG3 exe comes up trumps and
can detect bogus recordings using them. Let us know how you fare.
Pardon my ignorance but it hasn't been mentioned so I have to ask -
can the new exe determine what dip switch settings are being used?
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tjmorrow@bigpond.com