Shadow-land scoring system

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 8:53 am

Defcon=7

Money equal score now.
I think it is no problem for players who died at stage 1.
But, at stage 2,money is just a one small factor.
you must shopping and declease money.
to finish stage 3, must pay 30,000 money. it makes very poor score.
and the aim of this game is "How not to kill/get money" at stage 5 and reach to goal.
If you get some money at stage 5,ending become worse.
It is the time to change current scoring system now.

my suggestion.
MONEY=SCORE if you can not finish the game.
MONEY+1,000,000=SCORE if you finish the game and go to hell.
MONEY+2,000,000=SCORE if you finish the game and go to slave world.
MONEY+4,000,000=SCORE if you finish the game and go to beast world.
MONEY+8,000,000=SCORE if you finish the game and go to human world.
MONEY+16,000,000=SCORE if you finish the game and go to heaven.

Good players cannot upload on current system.

Blost · Post by **Blost** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 11:40 am

Hmm that must be why i found it a bit hard without buying stuff

And buying stuff costs points as you mention.

Your scoring system seems a bit "elistic" tough.

By the way, is there a way to win the gamble session each time in stage 1?

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 2:49 pm

Defcon=7

Blost wrote:Hmm that must be why i found it a bit hard without buying stuff
And buying stuff costs points as you mention.

Your scoring system seems a bit "elistic" tough.

By the way, is there a way to win the gamble session each time in stage 1?

Maybe no.
but if you want to go heaven, it is almost impossible to cost a time at gamble session.
Finish must be the aim of this game.should shopping if you must.
money is not worth of score.
it is the reason why this game does not have high-score name ranking.
and if you get 19 money bags at stage 5, you will go to hell automatically.

yes. at stage 1, to compare money is not so far from skill competition.
but stage 3's turtol 30,000 is too expensive.
of chourse go to stage 4 must be much better than die at stage 3.
and at the last stage,money is just a negative objection.
compare money is not right for this level.

BBH · Post by **BBH** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:16 pm

ok, there are 5 levels, correct? How about this:

if game isn't finished, then score = (levels completed * 100000) + money

and for finishing, I think that 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 million respectively for the different endings works better than 1, 2, 4, 8, 16.

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Thu Feb 06, 2003 8:22 am

Defcon=7

BBH wrote:ok, there are 5 levels, correct? How about this:

if game isn't finished, then score = (levels completed * 100000) + money

and for finishing, I think that 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 million respectively for the different endings works better than 1, 2, 4, 8, 16.

Your system is much more reasonable than current one.
better/poorer should be judged by reaching level or ending type.

Score= Money:if you died at entrance of the hell(stage 1)
Score=100,000+money if you died at the way of hard training(stage 2)
Score=200,000+money if you died at the ghost sea(stage 3)
Score=300,000+money if you died at judgement valley(stage 4)
Score=400,000+money if you died at circle of life(stage 5)
Score=1,500,000+money if you finish the game and went to hell
Score=2,500,000+money if you finish the game and became a slave.
Score=3,500,000+money if you finish the game and became a beast.
Score=4,500,000+money if you finish the game and return to human world.
Score=5,500,000+money if you finish the game and went to heaven.

Reasonable.
Finish the game and went to heaven with 5,000 money is much more greater play
than died at stage 2 with 70,000 money in fact.

BBH · Post by **BBH** » Thu Feb 06, 2003 4:56 pm

well, I was thinking that the base value for finishing would be 1 million instead of 1.5 million, but I guess that works well too.

Anybody object to this scoring system? Speak up now, because otherwise this should get officially implemented soon

Blost · Post by **Blost** » Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:25 pm

Well I don't know how hard it is to get to the different endings & if it justifies the differences it will create between the scores.
Supposing someone will actually finish this game.
Else than Hisa i mean

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:41 pm

Defcon=7

Blost wrote:Well I don't know how hard it is to get to the different endings & if it justifies the differences it will create between the scores.
Supposing someone will actually finish this game.
Else than Hisa i mean

For Example,Yokai douchuuki of

http://www.ab.wakwak.com/~starwars/ab2/ ... y_s-z.html

has the replay of all 5 ending set.
(same replay what put in mamenavi)

Blost · Post by **Blost** » Thu Feb 06, 2003 9:10 pm

Hmm won't playback here with mame 0.36 DOS or mame32.
Desync at various places in stage1.
Any clue?

Francois Daniel · Post by **Francois Daniel** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 8:40 pm

BBH wrote:well, I was thinking that the base value for finishing would be 1 million instead of 1.5 million, but I guess that works well too.

Anybody object to this scoring system? Speak up now, because otherwise this should get officially implemented soon

It's ok for me

Francois

gameguru · Post by **gameguru** » Fri Feb 28, 2003 10:22 am

I can't make it work?

ODD?

GG

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:50 pm

DEFCON=6

BBH wrote:well, I was thinking that the base value for finishing would be 1 million instead of 1.5 million, but I guess that works well too.

Anybody object to this scoring system? Speak up now, because otherwise this should get officially implemented soon

Does new rule works?
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/d/5/3/zf ... mame70.zip

is the first finished (human-world) recording.
clearly far much better than current top score's play (58000).

but this super excellent play is on the last position now.
Score should be change from 9,300 to 4,509,300.

BBH · Post by **BBH** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:02 am

well, I was going to try to review all existing recordings so they could be edited to proper scores, but the changes in romsets on old versions made it difficult to get any of them to work. So I sort of forgot all about this.

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 9:18 am

DEFCON=2

BBH wrote:well, I was going to try to review all existing recordings so they could be edited to proper scores, but the changes in romsets on old versions made it difficult to get any of them to work. So I sort of forgot all about this.

DQ all others without finish is not problem I think.
clealy this game is not for money.
I also wonder how they think about this problem who scream like a crazy "THE SPIRIT OF GAMES

" at outrun and cameltry.

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 11:55 am

Novice wrote:DEFCON=2
BBH wrote:well, I was going to try to review all existing recordings so they could be edited to proper scores, but the changes in romsets on old versions made it difficult to get any of them to work. So I sort of forgot all about this.
DQ all others without finish is not problem I think.
clealy this game is not for money.
I also wonder how they think about this problem who scream like a crazy "THE SPIRIT OF GAMES " at outrun and cameltry.

Say to zfz that he can edit his score to 4,503,900.
He has all the rights to do it...