Hard Puncher - Powerful World poll

Discussion about MARP's regulation play

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Hard Puncher - Powerful Mode regulation

Poll ended at Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:27 am

Completely ban the mode
9
90%
Split the mode into separate romset
1
10%
Leave as-is
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 10

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Re: Hard Puncher - Powerful World poll

Post by PP. » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:41 pm

Kale wrote: So I've voted for the ban and clearly stated I'm not interested in this jank mode at all
Of course, since this mode will be banned. But what about the normal mode?

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Re: Hard Puncher - Powerful World poll

Post by giro-X » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:04 am

PP. wrote:But what about the normal mode?
About hpuncher ranking, without the current 2 top scores that would be banned or separated, Kale yet wouldn't become first. He wouldn't even become the guy with best score between parent and clones.
But whoever becomes first after applying a special rule, that's a legit procedure. We even had a poll on it, 10 individuals voted already.
Once again, the main reason behind the discussion about the rule and the poll is not related to rankings, it is an act of common sense (confirmed then by the incoming votes).
PP. wrote:But after TK made a similar score then we have such poll. Don't you think this is strange?
Why you take it as hassling to Kale and not hassling to TK?
Subtracting a first place to TK was NOT a goal, as "split the mode" for a new ranking was considered as an option.

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Re: Hard Puncher - Powerful World poll

Post by PP. » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:13 pm

giro-X wrote: About hpuncher ranking, without the current 2 top scores that would be banned or separated, Kale yet wouldn't become first. He wouldn't even become the guy with best score between parent and clones.
Yes, but maybe he's planning to play a new one.
giro-X wrote: But whoever becomes first after applying a special rule, that's a legit procedure.
Nobody said it's not legit.
giro-X wrote: Once again, the main reason behind the discussion about the rule and the poll is not related to rankings, it is an act of common sense.
It would be common sense if the created score using the mode was always same.
Also, it would be common sense if we had poll in all same cases, not once because someone wants to get a first place by his way.

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Re: Hard Puncher - Powerful World poll

Post by giro-X » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:41 am

Poll has been up for a complete week and no vote came in, in the last 5 days.
90% immediate ban
10% split
0% no change

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Re: Hard Puncher - Powerful World poll

Post by Kale » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:34 pm

Updated special rules fwiw.
Needs an editor that zeroes Caseh and TK2012 inps now ...

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Re: Hard Puncher - Powerful World poll

Post by BeeJay » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:45 pm

Kale wrote:Needs an editor that zeroes Caseh and TK2012 inps now ...
Scores zeroed with appropriate comment.

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Re: Hard Puncher - Powerful World poll

Post by PP. » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:18 am

BeeJay wrote: Scores zeroed with appropriate comment.
Not a good idea to write "used cheat code" like those players were some cheaters...
As in other similar cases, its better to write "powerful world code is banned, see here the discussion(link)".

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Re: Hard Puncher - Powerful World poll

Post by BeeJay » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:53 pm

PP. wrote:Not a good idea to write "used cheat code" like those players were some cheaters...
As in other similar cases, its better to write "powerful world code is banned, see here the discussion(link)".
Good point about the URL link to this poll. I've added that URL link now and also the text "Powerful World" in front of cheat code to make it more explicit which cheat code we're referring to.

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Re: Hard Puncher - Powerful World poll

Post by Zhorik » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:14 am

PP. wrote:
Zhorik wrote:Didn't you get banned from Retrouprising a few weeks back after you got caught using auto-fire?

Did you ever use auto-fire for any of your submissions to MARP?
This is offtopic but a good opportunity to talk about the broken site of ru,

I left from that site because they have a PAC case, someone with the nick "tif".
In ru they don't check for a/f, there are plenty of inps there with a/f.
In marp they use wolfmames, they check inps for hacks, you cant use a/f here.
That's why tif won't play here and we don't see his... outstanding performances.
That's awful. I hate cheats, especially when you're forced to use auto-fire to try to beat them. Can you post the evidence you have of this "tif" cheating so we can watch out for him in case he decides to cheat at MARP? It's disgusting. Best would be to give his .inp files and the full details on the cheating evidence you found when you analyzed his replays.

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Re: Hard Puncher - Powerful World poll

Post by PP. » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:43 am

Zhorik wrote: Can you post the evidence you have of this "tif" cheating so we can watch out for him in case he decides to cheat at MARP? It's disgusting. Best would be to give his .inp files and the full details on the cheating evidence you found when you analyzed his replays.
Don't worry, tif has stated that he won't join marp. RU site does not give the inps.I asked him an inp from a super-score of "cotton", he accepted but only from a normal mame. He avoids use wolfmame...

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