Proposition to change rules in mk2 , mk3, umk3

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Proposition to change rules in mk2 , mk3, umk3

Postby BlackTMH » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:45 am

As you can see, game Mortal Kombat 2 & 3 have many 1st places. I have idea to change it.

Actually rules is:


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Score is 10 x (nb of rounds won) - (nb of rounds lost) [each fight has 2 rounds]


I suggest that rule:
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Score is  20 x (nb of perfect rounds won [flawlles victory]) +10 x (nb of rounds won with damage) - (nb of rounds lost) [each fight has 2 rounds]


... then only the best players can have 1st place.
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Re: Proposition to change rules in mk2 , mk3, umk3

Postby TRB_MetroidTeam » Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:51 pm

Welll... I agree... just for the current format of these games sux IMO.
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Postby The TJT » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:47 pm

Good idea.
Links are nice...MK2 and MK3
Since there are 5+6 clones and many recordings, editing scores would have to be done by players themselves...if they have "flawless" rounds.

How about this?:
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Score is 10 x (nb of rounds won) - (nb of rounds lost) + (nb of flawless rounds) [2 rounds to win per fight] <p>
Ex : 2-0 , 2-0 , 2-0 , 2-1 , 2-1 , 1-2, 1 flawless round...will be 11x10 - 4 + 1 = 107

(Same as old rules, but giving + 1 point for flawless "rounds")
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Re: Proposition to change rules in mk2 , mk3, umk3

Postby QRS » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:02 pm

BlackTMH wrote:As you can see, game Mortal Kombat 2 & 3 have many 1st places. I have idea to change it.

Actually rules is:


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Score is 10 x (nb of rounds won) - (nb of rounds lost) [each fight has 2 rounds]


I suggest that rule:
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Score is  20 x (nb of perfect rounds won [flawlles victory]) +10 x (nb of rounds won with damage) - (nb of rounds lost) [each fight has 2 rounds]


... then only the best players can have 1st place.


Seems fine.
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Postby TRB_MetroidTeam » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:59 pm

I think PERFECT would be give more than "1" point... Maybe "3"... or the maximum "5".

Using the TJT's proposal (P=1) I think is bad... if you receive +1 point due Perfect, and lost one round will be the same final score.
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Postby TRB_MetroidTeam » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:01 pm

Hmmm... P = "+5"! This way your battle can maximize to 30 points (P+P).
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Postby The TJT » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:41 am

My proposal vs blacks are the same, except mine would give 1 point for flawless round, blacks would give 10 points, which I think is too much:

With 2 "flawless" wins, you could lose your last match 1-2 and still have more points than somebody who finishes the game without any losses:

Player1, last match: 2-0= 20 points

Player2, last match: 1-2 (+2 flawless)=10-2+20=28points


TRB_MetroidTeam wrote:I think PERFECT would be give more than "1" point... Maybe "3"... or the maximum "5".

Using the TJT's proposal (P=1) I think is bad... if you receive +1 point due Perfect, and lost one round will be the same final score.

Yes, but I think other point values would be worse. :?

If you would give 10 points for flawless round(blacktmh):

player1: 2-0, 2-0, 2-0, 2-0, 2-0= 100 points

player2: 2-0, 2-1, 2-1, 2-1, 2-1 + having one flawless win = 96+10=106 points

If you would give 5 points for flawless...previous examples player2 would have 1 point more than player 1.


So why make up a random number for flawless win, why not make it 1?
Don't ya agree? Or is flawless so precious that it should score many times more than losing a round? 8O :)
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Postby QRS » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:13 am

As long as you are rewarded for a flawless run (and you can't get a better score without) it doesn't matter if it is 1 or 1000 points more right? :)
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Postby Frankie » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:49 am

We need to keep the bonus as low as possible. One max two points seems fine to me.
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Postby The TJT » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:02 pm

QRS wrote:As long as you are rewarded for a flawless run (and you can't get a better score without) it doesn't matter if it is 1 or 1000 points more right? :)


You lost me there :)

If you meant with "flawless run":

1. Getting all 2-0,2-0 etc...

Then I agree, but then we would need a system like: win round*1000 -loose round*100 +flawless round*1 ...And changing scoring for over 60 inps would be... Image

2. same as "flawless round" = you don't get hit by one opponent at one round at all, your power-bar stays full.

Then your comment was irony....because if you got flawless round at first opponent and scored 1000 points, you wouldn't have to fight more matches to get marp 1st...
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Postby QRS » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:45 pm

The TJT wrote:
QRS wrote:As long as you are rewarded for a flawless run (and you can't get a better score without) it doesn't matter if it is 1 or 1000 points more right? :)


You lost me there :)

If you meant with "flawless run":

1. Getting all 2-0,2-0 etc...

Then I agree, but then we would need a system like: win round*1000 -loose round*100 +flawless round*1 ...And changing scoring for over 60 inps would be... Image

2. same as "flawless round" = you don't get hit by one opponent at one round at all, your power-bar stays full.

Then your comment was irony....because if you got flawless round at first opponent and scored 1000 points, you wouldn't have to fight more matches to get marp 1st...


Flawless is no scratch so to speak. What I mean is that you must get some kind of reward for that. And I don't think it matters how much it is as long as you don't get LESS for a flawless than ordinary wins. Comprende? :)
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Postby The TJT » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:59 pm

QRS wrote:Flawless is no scratch so to speak.


Si, comprende. = "flawless round" (2. above)

What I mean is that you must get some kind of reward for that. And I don't think it matters how much it is as long as you don't get LESS for a flawless than ordinary wins. Comprende? :)


Si, eee... non comprende :)

Other words, my suggestion was flawless=11 points,
ordinary=10 points
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Postby The TJT » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:03 pm

The TJT wrote:my suggestion was flawless


Don't get this wrong, I don't mean what it looks like ;)
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Postby QRS » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:02 pm

The TJT wrote:
QRS wrote:
Other words, my suggestion was flawless=11 points,
ordinary=10 points
Ok?


It was flawless hehe but so is 1000 points or 20 points more :) 1 point is good for me though as it doesn't matter as long as it is more that no flawless.
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Postby BlackTMH » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:06 pm

Winning with flavles isn't more better than normal winning, like yours suggestions. I think 1 or 2 pts for great game in one round is to small.

But TJT have right at this point:
The TJT wrote:If you would give 10 points for flawless round(blacktmh):

player1: 2-0, 2-0, 2-0, 2-0, 2-0= 100 points

player2: 2-0, 2-1, 2-1, 2-1, 2-1 + having one flawless win = 96+10=106 points

If you would give 5 points for flawless...previous examples player2 would have 1 point more than player 1

10 is to big.

I think 5 is the best way.

example -
max pts[extra pts=5] 15x2-0 x 15pts, all flavlles and without loosing thats give 450 pts.
One more. Biggest score = more interesting input.
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