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Second MAME Olympiad - Teams and Game Selection

Postby gameboy9 » Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:40 pm

Here's the teams:
Destructor, Kaiser, Equimanthorn, and Wuzel in the Poland team
LeClaqueufou, Redstar, JYD, and Bigboudda in the France and Belgium team
MJS, Frankie, and Metrackle in the World team

OK - so I've picked three games from each team, one game maximum from each player... and one additional game I chose out of the blue to "keep you honest". :)

POLAND GAMES:
Double Dragon 3 (Destructor) - MOST STAGES, LEAST TIME WINS
Star Force (Kaiser)
Super Dodge Ball '96 (Equimanthorn)

FRANCE/BELGIUM GAMES:
Scramble (Redstar)
Wonder Boy 3 (JYD)
Giga Wing (Bigboudda)

WORLD GAMES:
PacLand [pacland2 set] (MJS)
Canyon Bomber (Frankie)
Neo Bomberman (Metrackle)

GAME TO KEEP YOU HONEST:
Soldam

FOR ALL GAMES, NO WARPING OR STARTING BEYOND LEVEL 1 IS PERMITTED!

I picked Double Dragon 3 to expand on the variety of game types... I picked Soldam because there wasn't a puzzle game... there was no entry for any player in that game... and we haven't seen competition in 4 1/2 years in this game.

Playing will begin on February 14th. Now, here are your guns, you may kill me now. :)
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Postby destructor » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:38 am

We must choose which players will be play on which games? For example - on star force from our team will play: destructor, Kaiser, wuzel.
Or we all play on all games?
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Postby gameboy9 » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:47 pm

destructor wrote:We must choose which players will be play on which games? For example - on star force from our team will play: destructor, Kaiser, wuzel.
Or we all play on all games?


Oh right - thanks for reminding me. All players will play between 4 and 8 games. Who plays what game and how many people play in said game is up to you. And you can change that allocation until the tournament is over.
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Postby destructor » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:12 pm

gameboy9 wrote:All players will play between 4 and 8 games.

In WORLD team are 3 players only. Then each must play in 10 games if they want to any chance with 4-players teams.
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Postby gameboy9 » Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:48 pm

You think so? Well... the score for each game is averaged... then they'll be compared to the averages of the other teams, then assigned a ranking... so I think I'm still ok with 4-8 games / person.

I can give examples... but I'll have to do it later.
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Postby destructor » Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:02 am

Hm.. I don;t understand something. I don;t understand almost all :D

If on game will play 1 player with team only with score 1mln, how it will be avereaged. 1mln/1? :D

What wolf version we use?

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Gameboy9 please correct Aquimanthorn nick. It is Equimanthorn.
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Postby gameboy9 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:52 am

destructor wrote:Hm.. I don;t understand something. I don;t understand almost all :D

If on game will play 1 player with team only with score 1mln, how it will be avereaged. 1mln/1? :D

What wolf version we use?

EDIT
Gameboy9 please correct Aquimanthorn nick. It is Equimanthorn.


Yes, that was the intention... if only one player from a team scores one million and the other two or three don't submit a score at all, the team's score is 1,000,000/1.

If, in another game, two players score 400,000 and 600,000, one player doesn't submit a score, and a fourth player had their recording DQed, the team score would be 1,000,000/2 = 500,000... I will consider DQed scores as games they didn't play on at all... so, in reality, all players in a team must submit 4-8 QUALIFIED scores.

Sorry for the confusion if there was some.

And the nickname is corrected... sorry about that as well.
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Postby destructor » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:33 am

Then best if team will submit one score for one game. Then average score will be highest because always will be divided by 1.

Otherwise if 1 player must play on 4 games minimum then probably best will be:
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 2. a
 3. a b
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 5.   b c
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 7.     c d
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 9.       d
10.       d


1-10 games, abcd - players.

Then team with 3 players have more chance because they can choose more games where will play 1 player only. It's no fer.

Am I correct?
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Postby The TJT » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:06 am

Interesting analysis Des. If scores are divided by number of players that will make number of combinations huge and game selection very tactical.

Let's say that I would be confident I'd make 800k at scramble, would it be wise for only me to submit at it or would the team win the game with a combined score of say (300k+300k+800k)/3 =466k. What if I sucked at all other games, should I submit at those that have superior player or at those where average could be close...Would I drag down close scores, or would I drag down clear winning scores...

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Postby destructor » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:37 am

I think better way is that every team must submit 2 scores for each game and every player can't play on more than X games.

X = number :D

Do you think (or feel) the same? Or maybe I'm wrong?

Otherwise we can test system made by Gameboy9 ;)

Right name Super Dodge Ball (96) in MAME is Super Dodge Ball / Kunio no Nekketsu Toukyuu Densetsu.
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Postby gameboy9 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:39 am

destructor wrote:I think better way is that every team must submit 2 scores for each game and every player can't play on more than X games.

X = number :D



I can see that... it's probably a good idea? X in this case would be... I'd say... 6 games for the 4-player teams, 8 games for the 3-player team.

Any further discussion to destructor's proposal?
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Postby destructor » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:20 pm

Remember that your system isn't bad too, Gameboy9. Each system has pluses and minuses.
In my system players must play on more than 4 games.
On your system 4 games only (in 4 players team). It's more comfortable if someone don't have too much time.
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Postby destructor » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:55 pm

destructor wrote:
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Maybe this is the best :D
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Postby The TJT » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:16 pm

destructor wrote:
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 2. a b
 3. a b c
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10.       d

Maybe this is the best :D


Well, it depends if player "d" stands for Des...
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Postby gameboy9 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:54 pm

I'm actually now thinking of saying everybody must play six and only six games... what do you think?
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