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[K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmrusa]

Postby TRB_MetroidTeam » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:23 pm

Round: 8
Game: Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Version! (94/09/06)
ROMset: gtmrusa
Year: 1994


Default Settings


K9 Rules:
Use MARP score system. It will reflect the fastest time as the best score, very simple! See Special Rules (Link) if necessary.
It´s required you post all your Stage Times in the description, also the Total Time.
Any of the default cars is allowed.


This game is a clone, however you do NOT need the PARENT ROMset [gtmr] if you get a recent [gtmrusa] ROMset only! It runs properly in 0.106 and 0.140.

PS.: There are 19 players that are able to play Round 8 in the match #927 (Battle for 6th (~24th)), for final ranking purposes. Feel free!

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Round Start: (Tuesday) 13 December 2011, 00:00:00 GMT (Round 8 is 6 days long)
Round End: (Sunday) 18 December 2011, 23:59:59 GMT => TIME REMAINING (Link)


Allowed versions: wolf106 and wolf140 for this round! Just get a recent GTMRUSA romset

CURRENT RANKING (Link)

OFFICIAL BRACKETS HERE

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Knockout / Championship general forum: viewforum.php?f=7

[K9] KNOCKOUT 9 - OFFICIAL RULES: http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14892
[K9] KNOCKOUT 9 - "List of Players": http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14889
[K9] KNOCKOUT 9 - Brackets (Challonge example): http://challonge.com/k9 or http://challonge.com/k9/fullscreen?multiplier=1.0
[K9] KNOCKOUT 9 - OFFICIAL BRACKETS (Excel): https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx?cid=06062E47DD5AB38A&resid=6062E47DD5AB38A%21135

.....[K9] Round 1 - Magical Crystals (mgcrystl):
..........Forum: http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14893
..........Ranking: http://replay.marpirc.net/index.cgi?mode=search&table=y&per_game=199&short=mgcrystl$&desc=K9&sort=score&tourn=0&maxlines=199
..........Time Remaining: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=K9+Round+1+END%21&day=06&month=11&year=2011&hour=23&min=59&sec=59&p0=0

.....[K9] Round 2 - Go Go! Mile Smile (gogomile):
..........Forum: http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14899
..........Ranking: http://replay.marpirc.net/index.cgi?mode=search&table=y&per_game=300&short=gogomile$&desc=K9&sort=score&tourn=0&maxlines=300
..........Time Remaining: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=K9+Round+2+END%21&day=12&month=11&year=2011&hour=23&min=59&sec=59&p0=0

.....[K9] Round 3 - Slap Fight (Japan set 1) [slapfigh]:
..........Forum: http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14902
..........Ranking: http://replay.marpirc.net/index.cgi?mode=search&table=y&per_game=500&short=(slapfigh)&desc=K9&sort=score&tourn=0&maxlines=500
..........Time Remaining: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=K9+Round+4+END%21&day=24&month=11&year=2011&hour=23&min=59&sec=59&p0=0

.....[K9] Round 4 - Super Street Fighter II Turbo (World 940223) [ssf2t] :
..........Forum: http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14905
..........Ranking: http://replay.marpirc.net/index.cgi?mode=search&table=y&per_game=500&short=(ssf2t)&desc=K9&sort=score&tourn=0&maxlines=500
..........Time Remaining: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=K9+Round+4+END%21&day=24&month=11&year=2011&hour=23&min=59&sec=59&p0=0

.....[K9] Round 5 - Donkey Kong (US set 1) [dkong] :
..........Forum: http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14906
..........Ranking: http://replay.marpirc.net/index.cgi?mode=search&table=y&per_game=500&short=(DKONG)&desc=K9&sort=score&tourn=0&maxlines=500
..........Time Remaining: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=K9+Round+5+END%21&day=30&month=11&year=2011&hour=23&min=59&sec=59&p0=0

.....[K9] Round 6 - Cadillacs and Dinosaurs (World 930201) [dino] :
..........Forum: http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14908
..........Ranking: http://replay.marpirc.net/index.cgi?mode=search&table=y&per_game=500&short=(DINO)&desc=K9&sort=score&tourn=0&maxlines=500
..........Time Remaining: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=K9+Round+6+END%21&day=06&month=12&year=2011&hour=23&min=59&sec=59&p0=0

.....[K9] Round 7 - Black Tiger [blktiger] :
..........Forum: http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14912
..........Ranking: http://replay.marpirc.net/index.cgi?mode=search&table=y&per_game=500&short=(BLKTIGER)&desc=K9&sort=score&tourn=0&maxlines=500
..........Time Remaining: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=K9+Round+7+END%21&day=12&month=12&year=2011&hour=23&min=59&sec=59&p0=0

.....[K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Version! (94/09/06) [gtmrusa] :
..........Forum: http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14913
..........Ranking: http://replay.marpirc.net/index.cgi?mode=search&table=y&per_game=500&short=(GTMRUSA)&desc=K9&sort=score&tourn=0&maxlines=500
..........Time Remaining: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=K9+Round+8+END%21&day=18&month=12&year=2011&hour=23&min=59&sec=59&p0=0
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Re: [K9] Round 8 -

Postby TRB_MetroidTeam » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:24 pm

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Re: [K9] Round 8 -

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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby Phil Lamat » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:19 pm

Are you sure the game will playback perfectly with 0.106 ?
I remember this game having some playback problems by the past.
I can't playback 1st place by Sawys:
http://replay.marpirc.net/inp/b/7/7/saw ... wolf89.zip
And I can't playback Germax score made with 0.101:
http://replay.marpirc.net/inp/e/1/5/ger ... olf101.zip
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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby The_Pro » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:05 pm

I couldn't play the wolf89 one either but I did get the MAME62 one to work. I'll post a quick one with wolf106 soon to see if others can play it.
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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby Hunter Killer » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:00 pm

Where are the updated brackets?
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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby mahlemiut » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:03 pm

Using different MCU code for this game will cause playback issues. At some point, it was added (0.99u9, from the looks of it), but some sets will have a fake ROM. I guess MAME uses what is available, but it wasn't dumped until then.

Anyone playing it must ensure that they have the correct up-to-date ROMset. Some older versions prior to 0.99 are likely not to be able to be played back, unless you remove the MCU ROM from the zip, as the MCU wasn't dumped at that time.

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   ROM_REGION( 0x020000, "mcudata", 0 )         /* MCU Code? */
   ROM_LOAD16_WORD_SWAP( "gtmrusa.u12",  0x000000, 0x020000, CRC(2e1a06ff) SHA1(475a7555653eefac84307492a385895b839cab0d) )
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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby TRB_MetroidTeam » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:55 pm

I am pretty sure that using a recent (up-to-date) GTMRUSA romset would be enough to everyone play and playback on 0.106 and 0.140. Let me know if I am wrong. Waiting The_Pro and/or other submissions to confirm it.

About playbacking previous scores (ie Sawys' 0.89 ones), I think it's required an older romset, from that time, like mahlmiut said above.

I am just working in updating the brackets.
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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby The_Pro » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:04 pm

Is there rank in this game? Using wolf106 or wolf140, once you get to level 8 the car doesn't autocenter anymore making it very hard to control. For example, tap right when going in a straight line and you'll normally move to the side and re-center. On level 8 you'll keep drifting.

It seems like this only happens if you reach level 8 on 1 credit, after failing and trying again the control returns to normal.

This might be why there are no MARP recordings that finish level 8.

Not sure if the car performance is reduced in other ways as well.
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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby The_Pro » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:14 pm

Here's a test inp. I noticed that the loss of control begins even sooner and is gradual. In level 6 the car will still autocenter but not immediatly, so slight drift is present.

Either this is a bug or the most shitty rank system I've ever seen.
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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby INNUENDO » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:32 am

I prefer the Neo Drift Out´s gameplay. I cannot win the second race, lol. But this is the game. I hope to improve something.
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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby The_Pro » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:36 am

Checked the parent gtmr, loss of control doesn't happen there so I guess it's a "feature" of the USA version. Playing this way is infuriating to say the least.
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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby The_Pro » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:07 am

Why yes, I am posting too much in this thread. Some good news, if you can get past the insanity that is level 8, level 9 isn't too bad. Then autocenter goes back to normal in level 10, but quickly degenerates in level 11 and 12, though never as much as level 8-9. By level 10 it seems like hard cornering is tougher than it used to be but it's a difficult assertion to quantify, it might just be me. So anyway, it's do-able but you have to constantly adjust your direction.

The fact that autocenter goes back to normal and the back to broken tells me this might be an emulation issue rather than a feature but who knows.
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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby TRB_MetroidTeam » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:08 am

I did many tests, and I think it's a Rank system, yes, on GTMRUSA version. Maybe the rank is also related to the "position" you got in the previous stage (and related to continues).
It's a bit affected by this rank, however, naturally, the stage 8 is the hardest in my opinion.
And like you said, it's do-able! Good luck to everyone!
PS.: INP playback correctly using 0.106.
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Re: [K9] Round 8 - Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Ver. [gtmr

Postby oldtimes » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:44 pm

INNUENDO wrote:I prefer the Neo Drift Out´s gameplay. I cannot win the second race, lol. But this is the game. I hope to improve something.


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