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US presidential election

Postby The TJT » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:46 pm

Well?
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Re: US presidential election

Postby GJTMarper » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:02 pm

How about "Not voting this year" for a poll option? :wink:
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Re: US presidential election

Postby diabolik » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:08 pm

The TJT wrote:this Trump guy is good

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Re: US presidential election

Postby ZID » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:15 am

Sanders >> Trump >> Clinton



So, Clinton or Trump?

Go Trump go!
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Re: US presidential election

Postby diabolik » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:19 am

Compared to Trump, George W. Bush starts to look like a pretty decent and intelligent guy, and that says a lot. Seems unbelievable that he is a successful businessman. :?

I hope and believe that majority of Americans are smart enough to not to vote him into the office.
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Re: US presidential election

Postby The TJT » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:54 am

diabolik wrote:Compared to Trump, George W. Bush starts to look like a pretty decent and intelligent guy, and that says a lot.

Yes.

Seems unbelievable that he is a successful businessman

Having a rich father and zero morals obviously helps. Six bankruptcies and not paying taxes doesn't hurt either...

Here's what world's 8th richest man says about him...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n3vuf-rbd8
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Re: US presidential election

Postby AL » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:37 am

'Clinton Cash' anyone???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM


How anyone can still vote for these career criminals is beyond me!





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Re: US presidential election

Postby diabolik » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:52 pm

AL wrote:'Clinton Cash' anyone???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM


I believe those allegations have been debunked.

I'm far from being a Clinton-fan, both of them are power hungry assholes.

That being said, I'd still much prefer that the nuclear weapon launch codes are in the hands of Clinton and her backing forces. At least she appears to be somewhat sane and her ideas grounded on reality. She also haven't said that dropping a nuclear bomb on Europe would be possible. Unlike Trump.

EDIT: I'm not going to continue on this topic further, I come here to "disconnect" myself from the unpleasant aspects of real life, talking politics is not really helping with that. :)
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Re: US presidential election

Postby The TJT » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:04 pm

AL wrote:'Clinton Cash' anyone???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM

Watched it... interesting and quite shocking.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5673884/reviews?filter=prolific

Although not all that reliable since it comes from right wing author before important elections. Certainly the documentary has an agenda and is rather one note journalism... For example when they speak of Rwanda dictator they forget to mention that Clintons are not the only ones who have praised him and also that in African country after "civil war" getting a leader like him is almost a victory for democracy, considering the other possible options...

I suspect parts of it is true though. I know I can always trust you Alex to keep me updated on stuff like this. :wink:

True or not, the options for US election are what they are... and I'm certain that Clinton will do a much better job than the psycho clown... no offence to Trump voters. :)
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Re: US presidential election

Postby diabolik » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:12 pm

Can't resist posting this.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/politics/donald-trump-baby.html wrote:Donald Trump Jousts With a Crying Baby at His Rally

“Don’t worry about that baby. I love babies,” Mr. Trump said. “I hear that baby crying, I like it. What a baby, what a beautiful baby. Don’t worry, don’t worry.”

But Mr. Trump’s pacifying platitudes did nothing to comfort the howling infant, whose persistent wails seemed to be getting on the candidate’s nerves.

“Actually, I was only kidding, you can get that baby out of here,” Mr. Trump said a few beats later with a slight smirk as laughs and a few gasps escaped from the crowd. “Don’t worry, I think she really believed me that I love having a baby crying while I’m speaking. That’s O.K. People don’t understand. That’s O.K.”


Have to admit, this made me laugh. Reminds me of that Seinfeld-episode where George decides to do always opposite of what is expected and everything begins to go his way.

PR people of the Republican Party: "Go kiss that baby Donald"
Trump: "No, I'm going insult its mother!"
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Re: US presidential election

Postby The TJT » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:04 am

Smart baby. I'd be crying in Trump rally too.

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Re: US presidential election

Postby The TJT » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:15 am

Donald Trump apparently asked an aide three times "why can't we use nuclear weapons".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1vlMUfR_Wc

Of course his campaign claims that he didn't - but I think he likely did since he has said a few times that nuclear weapons are not off the table. Hell, he even said that using nukes in Europe is not off the table (video above). Crazy, crazy stuff.
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Re: US presidential election

Postby PP. » Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:10 pm

diabolik wrote:Compared to Trump, George W. Bush starts to look like a pretty decent and intelligent guy, and that says a lot. Seems unbelievable that he is a successful businessman. :?


Someone can be a succesful businessman(not necessary to be clever for that) but the problem is that he's nazi.

diabolik wrote:I hope and believe that majority of Americans are smart enough to not to vote him into the office.


Americans have voted idiots like Bush jr or Nixon in the past, but in this election the other option is a woman and wife of expresident.
But I guess she will win, because no one needs another Hitler.
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Re: US presidential election

Postby Chufoglu » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:33 am

diabolik wrote:Compared to Trump, George W. Bush starts to look like a pretty decent and intelligent guy, and that says a lot.
Neocons of Bush era are now in Clinton´s team: http://www.voltairenet.org/article187315.html She is apparently more dangerous than Trump: http://www.globalresearch.ca/video-hillary-clinton-a-threat-to-all-humanity-world-war-iii-is-on-the-table/5537686 But who knows...
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Re: US presidential election

Postby The TJT » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:04 am

Chufoglu wrote:Neocons of Bush era are now in Clinton´s team: http://www.voltairenet.org/article187315.html She is apparently more dangerous than Trump: http://www.globalresearch.ca/video-hillary-clinton-a-threat-to-all-humanity-world-war-iii-is-on-the-table/5537686 But who knows...

The links you provided are rubbish. :roll:

For example...

telling Lucinda Frank: “I urged him to bomb"

That's not something Hillary would ever utter. If she would, she would say something like "I supported bringing the resolution to Kosovo by using air strikes"... instead of talking like a 4th grader.
Indeed, googling this statement reveals that it is not quoted on any remotely legit source. If she had said that - it would be on mainstream media as well. As for Kosovo; air strikes actually worked and ended the ethnic cleansing.

As for Clinton being supported by some neocons, that's apparently true although I haven't really bothered to check it myself... It is logical: they would be against Trump for the exact same reason Putin supports Trump. The reason being that Trump would weaken the US and would not be able to gather international support behind his actions. I have no doubt Trump would be just as big or bigger a warmonger as Clinton, but he simply would be poor at execution and doesn't understand politics behind the conflicts at all.

As for Clinton being more dangerous, you must be kidding...

With Trump, we're talking about narcissistic thin skinned loose cannon bully who takes no advice from anyone... while telling us that nuclear option is not off the table.

Speaking of which, HERE is btw rather interesting article about nuclear weapons. Some rather close calls in the past.

Some of these warheads can be launched within minutes of the president’s order, hit anywhere in the world within a half hour, and deliver 20 times the explosive force of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. The president can order this without consulting Congress, without being checked by the Supreme Court.

“One man, the president, is responsible. He makes an error and, who knows, it’s Armageddon.”
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