Golden Era Game of the Week 8/12/06: Kangaroo

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Golden Era Game of the Week 8/12/06: Kangaroo

Postby Weehawk » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:02 pm

Golden Era Game of the Week

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The Game: Kangaroo

romname: kangaroo

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Reward: $50 (usd) for the recording scoring the highest on MAME default settings (3 lives, no extras), $50 (usd) for the recording reaching the highest level, ties broken by earlier submission

Deadline for submission to MARP: August 18, 2006 2359 hours GMT

Further Bounty: $250 (usd) for exceeding 921,800 points by October 31, 2006. TG marathon settings (extra at 10k, every 30k) may be used for this.

Well, quite a bit of controversy over such a cutesy-wootsey game. There seems to be some doubt about whether the TG record score is even possible:

viewtopic.php?p=4747#4747

Whether certain methods of play are legitimate:

viewtopic.php?t=9323

And whether the game plays the same in MAME as in the arcade machine:

http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/view ... =9275#9275

I agree with JoustGod in the second thread, that unless the game is played with infinite extra lives and it is possible to gain another with each life spent leeching, it should be allowed. Even less reason to disallow it if extra men are not used (as in MAME default).

So...for GEGOTW purposes we will play with MAME default settings and I will offer the same prize for the highest score and the highest level reached. Choose one or the other (unless you can win both with the same recording!).

For the further bounty you may use TG marathon settings, and Rule 2j makes this legal for MARP submissions also. Even if a technique is used as described above which may wind up being banned for MARP and TG competition, I still want to see it and will honor the further bounty for it. It may, after all, be how the 23 year old TG record was accomplished for all we know. The record was set by David Kirk in 1983.

Page on the game:

http://www.digitpress.com/archives/mame_kangaroo.htm

The Wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_%28arcade_game%29


Random prize: One player exceeding 50,000 points, selected randomly from those who do, will receive an "It's on like Donkey Kong!" t-shirt:

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Re: Golden Era Game of the Week 8/12/06: Kangaroo

Postby destructor » Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:47 am

Weehawk wrote:the 23 year old TG record

Again? :P
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Re: Golden Era Game of the Week 8/12/06: Kangaroo

Postby Weehawk » Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:37 pm

destructor wrote:
Weehawk wrote:the 23 year old TG record

Again? :P

1983 was awesome. You should have been there.
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Postby Gerhard S » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:16 pm

leeching on first stage - is this allowed ?

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Postby destructor » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:17 pm

Gerhard S wrote:leeching on first stage - is this allowed ?

Hehe.
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Postby Weehawk » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:24 pm

Gerhard S wrote:leeching on first stage - is this allowed ?

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/c/f/c/ki ... olf106.zip

Yes. This is one of the reasons I offered bounties for the highest score and for the highest level reached.

Reminder: for the weekly prizes you must use MAME default settings (3 lives, no extras).

For the further bounty for exceeding 921,800 you may use TG marathon settings (extras at 10k, every 30k).
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Postby Gerhard S » Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:32 pm

special rules in GEGOTW - I did not know that
leeching is here permitted 8O --

make 66100 points on 1st Round :wink:

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Postby sampras » Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:58 pm

Gerhard S wrote:special rules in GEGOTW - I did not know that
leeching is here permitted 8O --

make 66100 points on 1st Round :wink:


It's normal leeching, not infinite.

At Marp and GEGOTW are permitted

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Postby TRB_MetroidTeam » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:13 pm

And about the GEGOTW points/ranking? 10 or 20 maximum (except bonus points)?
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Postby Weehawk » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:22 pm

Gerhard S wrote:special rules in GEGOTW

Not in this case.

As I pointed out in the original post, and as was pointed out in the Domino Man thread two weeks ago: in games which have timed levels the player is usually allowed to maximize points however they like within the time limit that the game allows them.

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Postby Weehawk » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:27 pm

TRB_MetroidTeam wrote:And about the GEGOTW points/ranking? 10 or 20 maximum (except bonus points)?

The usual point allocation. Based on score.
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Postby Weehawk » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:30 pm

destructor wrote:http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/9/e/3/tgk_kangaroo.zip
I think in this replay was used this method. Stage 4 only is in description. I can't playback correctly this input using mame from 29 to 35 under windows and DOS.

I'm trying to put together a .30-compatible ROMset. I think all the files still exist, just under different names, but I must be doing something wrong because it hasn't worked so far.
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Postby destructor » Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:13 pm

I notice when bonus life is set to 10k and every 30k then last bonus life is after 390k. No more bonus lives after 390k.
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Postby Weehawk » Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:19 pm

destructor wrote:I notice when bonus life is set to 10k and every 30k then last bonus life is after 390k. No more bonus lives after 390k.

Well, heck. That's going to make it more difficult for someone to grab my 250 smackers.

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Postby dbh » Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:44 pm

Well, quite a bit of controversy over such a cutesy-wootsey game. There seems to be some doubt about whether the TG record score is even possible:

viewtopic.php?p=4747#4747

Whether certain methods of play are legitimate:

viewtopic.php?t=9323

And whether the game plays the same in MAME as in the arcade machine:

http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/view ... =9275#9275

Ah, the memories of that TG thread...

I've played the Kangaroo at Funspot and it definitely does NOT have the same gorilla-leeching tricks. Also, the Cram family has a board set that is even more different...there is no big gorilla at all! I think it's also called "Kangarao" so it's probably just a bad clone.

I notice when bonus life is set to 10k and every 30k then last bonus life is after 390k. No more bonus lives after 390k.

Very interesting!
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