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Old ranking system

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:40 am
by ansollena
I do not know about you ... but I regret the times when there was the old ranking that gave the points based on the gap from the first classified. And then being fifth or tenth, doing more or less points, it was funny. Today, if you can't enter the first three positions, it is useless to play. Even often it is useless to finish second or third, because the only thing that really matters for the classification is to finish first. What a pity!

Re: Old ranking system

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:44 pm
by ***PL***
I agree. The current ranking system is more about quantity and not quality.

Re: Old ranking system

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:51 pm
by Cicca
The actual system is actually the original one.....
I also remember the times when we decided (I was one of the promoters) to introduce that alternative leaderboard (don't remember if a specific name were given)....it lasted some time, with its pros and cons, like any other.....and then dismissed...don't know why, I had been away from MARP for a while ....

Re: Old ranking system

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:55 am
by RAX
In case of modifications of the actual leaderboard, I would suggest a kind of grouping (parent+clones). If a parent has a million top score, it's awful that someone gets a 1st place with a 1K score on a new empty clone. (exceptions for clones with different scoresystems).
And some games has 20+ identical clones: one training=20 1st places

Re: Old ranking system

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:23 am
by Novice
RAX wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:55 am
If a parent has a million top score, it's awful that someone gets a 1st place with a 1K score on a new empty clone. (exceptions for clones with different scoresystems).
And some games has 20+ identical clones: one training=20 1st places
DEFCON=6
If you want ,then you may do so.
I am not interested in huge amout of junks as I send.

Why not try marvel land ,RAX?
it is not a easy game.(I think)

Re: Old ranking system

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:03 am
by INNUENDO
Hello, guys.

In my opinion, to avoid these junkies uploads, we can work only with the original games. The best is: We don´t have to full the site with a lot of inps.

I vote YES for this. :)

Re: Old ranking system

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:07 pm
by BeeJay
INNUENDO wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:03 am
we can work only with the original games. The best is: We don´t have to full the site with a lot of inps.
The difficulty with this idea is what happens when the 'original' version of a given game changes with new releases of Mame. Also, sometimes the 'original' versions had bugs which were fixed in later versions and therefore the later version is the better version to use for high score competitions etc. Then, there are games that while notionally 'clones' of the 'original' have quite different game play to the 'original' version.

Where games truly are identical, or so close to identical it has no discernible difference in game play, it does seem somewhat pointless to have so many of them available for upload.

My vote would be to completely get rid of the current leaderboard as that is what encourages so many of these crap uploads in the first place. If they didn't 'climb' that leaderboard by submitting that crap on unplayed games, than they would have far less reason to want to submit that crap... although we'd still have the appalling behaviour currently displayed by 'saulonpb' where they seem to be determined to put up a recording for every single game regardless of the impact on their leaderboard standing. Personally I find that such a direct violation of rule 1e that they could/should have been banned by now to remove the likelihood of real uploads being missed when they're removed from the recent uploads by this flood of absolute crap from saulonpb.

Cheers,
BeeJay.

Re: Old ranking system

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:06 pm
by Haze
INNUENDO wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:03 am
Hello, guys.

In my opinion, to avoid these junkies uploads, we can work only with the original games. The best is: We don´t have to full the site with a lot of inps.

I vote YES for this. :)
who decides what's worthwhile and what isn't

MAMEdev don't make any attempt to claim that the parent version of a game is the best version (in 99% of cases the Japanese clone is the best version of any given game, but there are literally hundreds of interesting clone sets in MAME even beyond that)

Re: Old ranking system

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:38 am
by RAX
Novice wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:23 am
Why not try marvel land ,RAX?
it is not a easy game.(I think)
Indeed I love it, but I was not so good in scoring. Some time needed to do things in a satisfying way. I have an infinite to-do list, and Marvel Land is quite high in it.