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It's about the high score of Metal Slug 3

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:22 am
by CID007
I want to know the highest score of Metal Slug 3 in the world , as far as I know the highest score of Metal Slug 3 is 15,674,070 pts in China .

If you have just reply my post and upload your INP.

Here is highest score replay of Metal Slug 3 .

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:05 am
by destructor
In readme.txt is:
More information and amazing replays can be obtained from our
website: replay.ga-la.com (the Chinese best emu-replay website )
I don't know what to think about replays from this site. Some (more than some) from them especially recorded by chinese players are fake.

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:50 am
by CID007
you say the some replays are fake , but I don't think so . Maybe the authors use autofire in their replays sometimes . I also know this website never accept autofire replays , I just want to know best score about Metal Slug 3 and 2 in the world .

You should explain the mean of "fake" for me , for example :they use autofire ,or other cheats and so on .

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:00 am
by destructor
DoDonPachi is my last example:
viewtopic.php?p=43050#43050
Probably you can found next examples in Knights of the Round. Be carefully when you watch replays from emu-zone.
Otherwise on emu-zone are excellent no fake replays too.

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:06 pm
by GHEMANT
CID007 wrote:you say the some replays are fake , but I don't think so . Maybe the authors use autofire in their replays sometimes . I also know this website never accept autofire replays , I just want to know best score about Metal Slug 3 and 2 in the world .

You should explain the mean of "fake" for me , for example :they use autofire ,or other cheats and so on .
official world record for METAL SLUG 3 is:

10.754.840 player HAMU HAMU autofire use I think.

But there is a chinese player with a better score:

10.856.130 player B.L.K. (Blanka), notes: LAST BOSS 50.000 PTS X 1 [06-23-2005]

BLK play in arcade machine (not emulator).

score of 15.6m is fake, but is very beautiful see, is a demonstration of best techniques (and impossible techniques eh eh :lol: in this game), I see 5 times [2 hours of replay] because I have avi video), this replay is FAKE because player TCL2000 use a tons of save state in every stage with kawaks emulator.

15,6m are possible (theoretical) with level 8 difficult only because many random bonus have a max value, for exemple in last boss all bonus are 50.000 pts value. With level 4 max score possible is 10.900.000 / 10.950.000 I think (depending of random 50.000 bonus at the last boss)

many replay from emuzone are fake, because there are save state during recording. There are also replay with autofire sure, for exemple, there is a replay with Varth with autofire on the lever for increase a bomb reserve.

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:12 pm
by GHEMANT
last score for metal slug 2 is:

9.398.940 pts player ghost hone tuka, remaining 0 difficult level 4.

I think ghost hone play again for 9.500.000 +

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 12:25 am
by CID007
Well , I think I should ask TCL2000 to replay Mslug 3 in M.A.M.E emulator .

But why do you think "save state " can affect score of replay ? Is there problem ?

When someone makes a official record , I need to know the following qestions:

permit using autofire ? yes or no
permit using save state ? yes or no

Hey , GHEMANT , you offer me Mslug 2 hi-score replay I have watched last time , but It isn't 9,400,000, is 8,900,000 , would you offer me the latest hi-score replay of Mslug 2 , thank you very much one more time.

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:55 am
by BBH
CID007 wrote:When someone makes a official record , I need to know the following qestions:

permit using save state ? yes or no
I hope you're not serious.

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:05 am
by GHEMANT
Well , I think I should ask TCL2000 to replay Mslug 3 in M.A.M.E emulator.

I think that is much improbable, TCL2000 has played on the kawaks emulator only for demonstration.

But why do you think "save state " can affect score of replay ? Is there problem ?

save state is a max term of "cheat". I use it for training only. In Japan, all official records are from arcade machine and all players train on arcade machine only (without save state obviously).

When someone makes a official record, I need to know the following qestions:

permit using autofire ? yes or no
permit using save state ? yes or no

- official record are from arcade machine only. Official record are with "default settings" and not with max difficult possible. In arcade machine save state not exist (lockily). In Japan only is normalcy use autofire in arcade machine in many games. Outside of Japan autofire not used.

- for a mame replay official hi-score (not demostration like metal slug 3 from TCL) save state is BANNED (however is not possible because wolfmame not have this option). For hi-score, Kawaks or Nebula replay is not accepted and them are banned.


Hey , GHEMANT , you offer me Mslug 2 hi-score replay I have watched last time , but It isn't 9,400,000, is 8,900,000 , would you offer me the latest hi-score replay of Mslug 2 , thank you very much one more time.

8.975.000 is hi-score of the ONLY mame replay available in web from player Ghost Hone Tuka. 9.400.000 is hi-score from arcade machine in Japan and it is not recording in VHS/DVD.

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:58 am
by The TJT
GHEMANT wrote:In Japan (snip)
and all players train on arcade machine only (without save state obviously).
That's quite a statement, all players...

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:21 am
by CID007
Oh, I see , thank you very much . :D

But , when player killed a soldier (I mean in Metal slug 3) using pistol without save state in Kawaks emulator, he can earn 100 pts , it doesn't mean he can earn 200 or 500 pts using pistol in save state .

OK, another question about "The official awesome replay thread" ,I don't know the mean of the word "thread" , (hey , hey, what are you thinking ) I am not a sloth , actually I have looked it up in the dictionary , but there are four means , I just don't know which mean is I want .
1. ( a line of ) very thin cord made by spinning cotton ,wool , silk , etc., used in sewing or weaving

2. something with the fineness or thinness of this

3. a: a line of reasoning connecting the parts of an argument or story
b: a reapted pattern or idea
4. a raised line that winds round the outside of a screw or the inside of a nut , bolt , etc.

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:41 am
by The TJT
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/thread
10. A series of posts on a newsgroup dealing with the same subject.
Not only newsgroups, but internet forums too.

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:34 am
by GHEMANT
CID007 wrote: But , when player killed a soldier (I mean in Metal slug 3) using pistol without save state in Kawaks emulator, he can earn 100 pts , it doesn't mean he can earn 200 or 500 pts using pistol in save state .
for training, save states aren't a problem. For a video demonstration, save state aren't a problem. But in a true replay, save state is a ridiculous system to fake a hi-score performance or, if you prefer, save state is a MAX CHEAT IN THIS UNIVERSE because anyone can perform very hi-score with save state.

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:23 am
by _Zaphod_
With save state you can do the following things.

1) retry sections till you get them right. CHEAT.

2) retry until the random bonus gives you the max score. CHEAT.

In Japan, hardware assisted autofire, even with variable speeds is allowed, but autofire entires will usually go in their seperate tables. in-game autofire, on the other hand, is always allowed, and does not get it's own seperate table. Een though full auto is not always enabled for C in default options, if the cabinet has the button, nearly EVERY JP operator will turn it on. So it is a de-facto default in that country, even though it doesn't match the rom defaults.

However, any non autofire related macroing is not allowed for the vast majority of games.

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:38 am
by CID007
Oh, now I know much more than before. :)