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WCC6 week 1 : TANGTANG

Post by Phil Lamat » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:41 am

You will get 12 hours of bonus play with this early annoucement of the first game of WCC6 : it will be Tang Tang, a recent game from Mame 103.
Of course version to use will be Wolf 103.
Uploadings can start tonight at 0:01 GMT.

SPECIAL BONUS POINTS :
the game ends after 30 levels.
The first player to finish the game will get 5 bonus points.

RULES :
http://perso.numericable.fr/plamat/marp/wcc.html

RANKINGS:
http://perso.numericable.fr/plamat/marp/wcc6.html

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Post by destructor » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:46 am

Game similiar to Solomon's Key and is very easy. I drink vodka today probably and don't upload nothing.

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Post by Phil Lamat » Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:16 am

No more bonus points if you finish it drunk :)

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Post by destructor » Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:53 am

One moment ago I finished it without recording. Tommorow I will try record inp when I will be drunked ;) But I think no one player will upload finished inp after midnight.

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Post by Phil Lamat » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:09 am

5 special bonus points for Gavin Ward to be the first to finish the game.

And 1st bonus point for Ace13 (leader after 2 days) :
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/3/6/5/cj ... olf103.zip

But his inp shows that points can be leeched after 3rd boss's death (boss stages are the only stages without timer).
So I add a new rule avalaible from now : I will substract all points scored after 3rd boss's death and before leaving the stage.
Rule non retroactive, so Ace13 keeps his 1 bonus point.

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Post by SprintGod » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:55 am

It's very easy to leech from there without harming the boss. Just find a spot in one of the upper corners where the boss can't hit you, then block yourself in with the spawn point so you can't hit the boss either.

It's probably better to just disregard all points scored on that level.
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Post by Phil Lamat » Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:10 am

Yes, I see :
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/6/a/9/cj ... olf103.zip

So I'm forced to change the rule again (the previous one is cancelled) : the spirit is to finish the game as fast as possible, we gonna make sort of time trial.

FOR A FINISHED GAME :
I gonna have a look at number of frames when the "Congratulations" screen appears at the end of the game.
Don't bother with last three digits, only take the 3 first and add "000".
Bonus to add for a finished game :
1000x(200000 - frames)

Examples:
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/6/a/9/cj ... olf103.zip
Frames at congratulations screen = 115000+
Bonus = 85000x1000=85000000
Final score=85409910

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/3/b/3/ga ... olf103.zip
Frames at congratulations screen = 104000+
Bonus = 96000x1000=96000000
Final score=96360300


Note:
if your regulation score is higher than the inp you want to upload for WCC, you can upload there

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Post by Phil Lamat » Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:52 pm

1 bonus point for Gavin Ward (leader after 4 days ; Ace13 submission came 2 hours too late)

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Post by Phil Lamat » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:42 am

1 bonus point for Ace13 (leader after 6 days)

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Post by destructor » Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:14 pm

One suggestion Phil. Will be good if in first post in topic you add link to scoreboard (as Weehawk did it in GEGOTW topics).
http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... xlines=999

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Post by Phil Lamat » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:01 pm

No problem ...
By the way, ot interested to play ? you still have a few hours to enter WCC....
Nex game announcment in around 5 hours

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Post by destructor » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:46 pm

Not now Phil. I prepare HotTeam site and still try zlk bounties.

But everyday observe WCC and play for fun on WCC games.

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Post by Phil Lamat » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:47 pm

Week 1 is quite finished, and I send a mail to Tommi :
> Hi Tommi ...
> I would like to know what to do on this game ;
> week 1 finishes tonight, you probably see that the game was easily
> finishable, but there is a leeching possibility on boss 3, so I made a
> special scoring for WCC using frames to do a sort of time trial
>
> Do you think we can keep such a scoring for regulation ?
> I want your opinion to know if, after week1 ends, I had to reinstate old
> system, which allows Ace13 (or anyone else) to re-upload one of his > leeching inputs, or
> keep
> things like they are now ???
> maybe a poll will be necessary to know other 's opinions

Tommi's answer:
Yes, I think it would be best to keep wcc scoring, assumably scores are
better that way. +No leeching issues.
Maybe you can make a conversation about this at regulation forum, and I'll ask people to vote in the same thread.

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So I ask there for all opinions ;
it's a particular special scoring we never use before, but it works to prevent leeching, at least on this game.
Could be extend maybe to other games involving leeching stuff ???

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Post by mahlemiut » Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:59 pm

I'd say no, it's not the only game with leeching issues. It has it's own scoring system. Sure, it sucks, but it is what it is. Save the fake scoring for games that don't have any scoring.

Just ban the technique like we've always done. Makes confirming it easier.
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Post by Phil Lamat » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:24 pm

To be frank, I tend to think like Barry, I was just asking ; maybe some people could find the idea interesting
mahlemiut wrote: Just ban the technique like we've always done.
For tangtang, it's hard ; all finished inp are around 350k, but someone could leech during 5-10s with the 2nd method used by Ace, it's quite invisible and can bring 5000 pts more for 1st place.

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