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PP - Side by Side

Postby Kale » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:06 pm

http://replay.marpirc.net/inp/f/7/7/cum ... olf175.zip
http://replay.marpirc.net/inp/0/1/b/cum ... olf175.zip

Other two inps where our Greek hero (?) takes advantage of -nothrottle at POST screens to bump his percentages, just like Final Fight Revenge.
Scoring system he arbitrarily decided to use is Image style as well: 1 million for each checkpoint passed, wtf. :roll:
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby PP. » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:50 pm

Kale wrote:Other two inps where our Greek hero (?)

Where are you from bob?


Kale wrote:Scoring system he arbitrarily decided to use is Image style as well: 1 million for each checkpoint passed, wtf. :roll:


It's the same scoring system I saw in another similar games.


Kale wrote:..... takes advantage of -nothrottle at POST screens to bump his percentages, just like Final Fight Revenge.

I haven't seen it yet.
Meanwhile I've posted a thread about "calspeed" in which two players have speed <90% just like Final Fight Revenge, the confirmer saw it and confirmed score!
But our "hero" Kale said nothing about it.

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I just watched my sidebsja's inp. Unlike ffreveng, my speed during the race is clearly >90%.
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby BeeJay » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:45 am

PP. wrote:Meanwhile I've posted a thread about "calspeed" in which two players have speed <90% just like Final Fight Revenge, the confirmer saw it and confirmed score!

Confirmation only means that it is confirmed to play back to the claimed score, not necessarily that no Marp rules were broken in the recording and that it won't at some point in the future potentially be zeroed.

Please also be aware that not everyone who can confirm a score has the necessary permissions to be able to "zero" a score, if it is found to be breaking any Marp rules such as < 90% speed.

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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby PP. » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:01 am

BeeJay wrote:Confirmation only means that it is confirmed to play back to the claimed score, not necessarily that no Marp rules were broken in the recording and that it won't at some point in the future potentially be zeroed.

Please also be aware that not everyone who can confirm a score has the necessary permissions to be able to "zero" a score, if it is found to be breaking any Marp rules such as < 90% speed.


Yes, I already know this.
The point is that 6,5 years ago Saulon did in "calspeed" what I did in "ffreveng", but no one accused him for exploits.
Let's see what will now happen.
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby Kale » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:54 pm

PP. wrote:I just watched my sidebsja's inp. Unlike ffreveng, my speed during the race is clearly >90%.


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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby PP. » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:16 pm

Just calculate the average speed.
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby BeeJay » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:56 pm

Thanks Kale. Both scores zeroed for < 90% speed during game play.
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby PP. » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:09 pm

BeeJay wrote:Thanks Kale. Both scores zeroed for < 90% speed during game play.


My games were legal, as I explained.

And what about ffreveng, why you still keep it there after so many months?

How funny and unfair attitude, my inps are deleted immediately because some idiot said so, other illegal inps which have many times reported and recognized by mods, still remain... :roll:
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby BeeJay » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:26 pm

PP. wrote:My games were legal, as I explained.

You claimed they were played at an average > 90% but they were so frequently below 90% during the important parts of game play, when watching with the stats displayed, that they do not meet Marp's minimum speed requirements.

PP. wrote:And what about ffreveng, why you still keep it there after so many months?

There was a posting for a TK2012 and PP games running below speed, and they were dealt to. Looking again at that posting you mentioned in passing about another score but it would be better to put in a separate posting as that could easily have been lost in the noise.

PP. wrote:How funny and unfair attitude, my inps are deleted immediately because some idiot said so, other illegal inps which have many times reported and recognized by mods, still remain... :roll:

Actually, the scores which were deleted were first reported in March 2017. That's hardly immediately.
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby PP. » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:34 pm

BeeJay wrote:You claimed they were played at an average > 90% but they were so frequently below 90% during the important parts of game play, when watching with the stats displayed, that they do not meet Marp's minimum speed requirements.]


No, I said that the average speed within the driving periods is >90%


BeeJay wrote:There was a posting for a TK2012 and PP games running below speed, and they were dealt to. Looking again at that posting you mentioned in passing about another score but it would be better to put in a separate posting as that could easily have been lost in the noise.


TK's score was deleted. SFCHAMPION's score was not deleted, even that I was told that it will.
So, how many more months are you going to keep it?

BeeJay wrote:Actually, the scores which were deleted were first reported in March 2017. That's hardly immediately.


Apparently last March it was made clear that my inps were legal. Now Kale brings it back again, and of course you get the opportunity :lol:
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby PP. » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:13 am

Forgot to say about "calspeed" which was mentioned earlier in this thread
http://replay.marpirc.net/r/calspeed

Confirmer himself says [2:22.40 Silicon Valley Finish, congrats! but this would be below 90% if you only counted gameplay and didn't add the 100% fast stuff before and after, becarefull :) -skito]

After 6 years this score still exists, but you deleted immediately my 'Side by Side' score, why you act like this? Is Saulon 'smarter' or under protection?
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby Kale » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:29 pm

There's no special protection for saulonpb.

http://replay.marpirc.net/inp/c/5/c/snp ... olf142.zip

I haven't checked personally because I don't have that romset but if it really uses the throttling off trick it should be zeroed, as also stated by rule 2n:

n) Using Pause 'P' or suspending the MAME program to take advantage of more time while making a recording will not be allowed. The same goes for turning throttling off 'F10' to speed up MAME beyond normal speed.


The same goes -> Also applies to.

In case you wonder here are the full ruleset, and I've checked there's no mention of a special treatment for saulonpb :o
http://replay.marpirc.net/rules
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby PP. » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:44 pm

Kale wrote:There's no special protection for saulonpb.


Then why they keep his bogus inps?

Calspeed and ffreveng are recognized by mods as speed downgraded, but still exist in boards.
Only PP and TK have their inps immediately deleted =D> =D>
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby Kale » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:10 pm

Because you don't shut up? :roll:

Pushing the threads with "oh noes, editors gives a special treatment to saulonpb" doesn't give room for editors to do their job.
Because important stuff gets lost between YOUR OWN rants.
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Re: PP - Side by Side

Postby PP. » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:23 pm

Kale wrote:Because you don't shut up? :roll:

Pushing the threads with "oh noes, editors gives a special treatment to saulonpb" doesn't give room for editors to do their job.
Because important stuff gets lost between YOUR OWN rants.


Don't tell me garbage, you asked for my Side to Side score to be deleted because of speed downgrade, and it was immediately deleted(although in fact there was not)
But we wait months or years for other speed downgraded scores to be deleted.
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