giro-X wrote: I just find odd that evidently low scores replays are also being checked. In an imaginary world where we all have a lot of free time, we would check every single submitted replay as expression of maximum control, but the fact is, most of the cheapest 1st scores attempts are not even being checked.
Unless we may discover that actually someone does check them all.
This is one of the reasons why I personally dislike massive uploads -
You prefer zero score than any score?
You see what happens, I bring an unplayed rom in the index board, and create a new competition in it.
Otherwise it would remain forgotten.
Rather than checking and confirming some replays, or training in some of mine, here I will dedicate some minutes on writing this post. I'll be shorter than I could do if I were to speak openly and entirely.
Once again I remind to you and all the readers, that it is not my intention to flame anyone, I just want to explain myself.
We really need competition on clones of games that already have big or good scores on it...
I mean, I understand you are talking of single versions/clones of games that have no score at all, but (and this is personal from user to user) I wonder, some of us wonder, why there is need to compete on every single clone if what changes from clone to clone is only a name, or some sprites, or the language. Beware, I'm not saying we can't do this, I'm just pointing out that it doesn't sound necessary. If you bring up games that are unrelated to other stuff and had no score at all (like... the ugly Lock On by Philko), ok, sometimes it works (after all, someone must truly care about that game!), in that example you started a competition (and you started it for real, even if it lasted very shortly, as that game probably deserves)... if you pick games like Dragon Saber, you know, the competition is theoretically on from its first appearing in MAME, and Hisa a.k.a. Novice won it on both the 3 and 1 lives/life settings... anyone with a minimum of browsing ability can understand who made over time the greatest replays.
On these considerations... what we, other players, see when browsing and noticing all these quickly done 1st scores, is an attempt to climb the Leaderboard page (which, again, if one knows how to read the information he/she finds, it's easy to tell who is in the top ranks for a various assortment of valuable scores, and who's not, so in my opinion Leaderboard is not to condemn nor it has to be taken too literally/seriously), and spam
Yeah, because as someone already pointed out (Matt?), unless we daily check for new scores, it's pretty hard to discover the most interesting scores that have been uploaded recently, and what we actually see is "easy 1st, easy 1st, easy 1st, old easy 1st that now is 2nd, easy 1st, oh look a totally different score... but that's not 1st, easy 1st" etc. - I'll take my criteria of "interesting scores" and I'll take a look now at the "loads" page, just to try.
Latest 100 scores limited to worst position as 20th, cover only one week of submission ( ==> you need to weekly check or change the search fields and read more stuff)
...maybe only 5 replays are interesing. And they are only 2 games + their variations. So... it's 95% of stuff I would ignore. And I've been generous, because actually I won't even watch them but I can't say they are bad.
Shall I quote also these lines of our rules:
MARP's goal is to emulate the experience of "watching a virtual master play an arcade game", true to the arcade experience, as closely as possible.
Submit only games that you feel are worthy of the notice of other MARPers, owing either to personal effort, or display of skill.
So. Although these lines rely on "feelings", which are personal... are you trying to master a game, or showing a display of skill? Yes -> ok, no -> filler.
Also notice I'm making a discussion about quantity
. I've not been exempt from uploading replays that the most of us may consider useless (see Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon, for which I uploaded a score for parent and every clone, and parent+clones=12, and the only worth difference is that 8 clones are set to Normal and 4 are set to Hard) (see "some" mahjongs), though, I honestly believe nobody has ever said of me I'm one that fills the board with cheap stuff... like I said, there may be a small bunch (I'll be sincere, tvrs2, peekaboou, mjjoship, mjgnight, lhb, lhbv33c, are my personal easy crap. 6 scores that are 1st.), but it's like I said, a small bunch, that always passed away. Instead, we daily see easy cheap stuff coming from many many players, not just you. It's not the first time we're talking about this in the community.
To sum it up... Opening competition? Not always. And even if what you (not you PP but you generic) submit may lead to opening competition, that doesn't exclude other things like the board being flooded with surplus.
Ah yeah, to answer your question. Do I prefer zero score than any score?
YES I do.