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Power Instinct 3
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:07 pm
by Chad
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:30 pm
by mahlemiut
You used one of the Japanese BIOSes? From the title, I can see that that would be the only BIOS the game works with. Should be the default, but worth a look to check.
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:20 pm
by Chad
was worth a shot but bioses 1 through 10 or bios japan dont work, most give 153500 3rd round loss result, one gives a result that loses in the 2nd match instead of 3rd, and a couple others say they wont work with that country's bios.
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:34 am
by mahlemiut
If you're getting any game at all, then you are using a japanese BIOS for sure. It will not start up with a non-japanese BIOS (damn region locking).
No BIOS is obviously marked as the default, so I presume that -bios 0 is the default (or -bios jp). There are 4 japanese BIOS all up (0 to 3).
Also, there's the debug (7) and dev[elopement] (8) BIOSes, which I'd guess would run the game too.
I would also highly recommend that newer versions of MAME be used for ST-V games. More likely to work properly.
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:59 am
by Phil Lamat
153,500 for me too ;
probably RTDSC stuff cause the desync
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:58 pm
by DeFrenZ
the bios is the default one (should be japan epr19730)
I had some issues with playbacks too, but eventually worked out... it desynchs a little sometimes and on the long range it makes the whole go off... (even though the desynched could win a bit more before XD)
the fact is that is game is quite heavy and i played it with auto frameskip, which i realize now that wasn't a great thing...
maybe it better if i make a new inp, shouldn't be a heavy work
edit: forgot to say, when it didn't work i used throttle, when i didn't it worked
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:08 pm
by Abbe
I just played it back four times in a row, same settings, same everything. The result was four different scores:
466K
608K (Yep, this is the advertised score)
153K
150K
All the time without frameskip, no throttling, no pausing. I guess there is a random element lurking somewhere.
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:49 am
by Kale
Abbe wrote:
I guess there is a random element lurking somewhere.
Real Time Clock,RTC for the friends.
(Lines from 622 of stv.c)
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/*"Interrupt Back"*/
case 0x10:
if(LOG_SMPC) logerror ("SMPC: Status Acquire\n");
smpc_ram[0x5f]=0x10;
smpc_ram[0x21] = (0x80) | ((NMI_reset & 1) << 6);
smpc_ram[0x23] = DectoBCD(systime.local_time.year /100);
smpc_ram[0x25] = DectoBCD(systime.local_time.year %100);
smpc_ram[0x27] = (systime.local_time.weekday << 4) | (systime.local_time.month+1);
smpc_ram[0x29] = DectoBCD(systime.local_time.mday);
smpc_ram[0x2b] = DectoBCD(systime.local_time.hour);
smpc_ram[0x2d] = DectoBCD(systime.local_time.minute);
smpc_ram[0x2f] = DectoBCD(systime.local_time.second);
MAME-wise,there's an implementation of the RTC get time/save time that gets into the record/playback .inps in 0.128...It's really likely that in MAME 0.106 that feature is missing.
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:32 pm
by DeFrenZ
Didn't know that
I think it's advised to add a Special Rule "WolfMAME v128 or higher requested for inps" or similar (if 128 was the first with RTC)
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:38 am
by mahlemiut
I'm pretty sure that I had a workaround for the ST-V RTC in wolf106... will check later.
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:46 am
by Phil Lamat
DeFrenZ wrote:I think it's advised to add a Special Rule "WolfMAME v128 or higher requested for inps" or similar (if 128 was the first with RTC)
First we need more testing ; could you make another inp with wolf128 (and attached there if lower) so that we can check if it playbacks ?
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:59 am
by DeFrenZ
Sorry I have roms for .106 and this was updated since then
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:58 am
by Chad
hmm, i don't think that's the problem. Since i think i also have the old wolf106 roms too because i don't get an error when playing back. DeFrenZ, a question: can you play this game back yourself to the score you posted?
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:52 pm
by DeFrenZ
DeFrenZ wrote:I had some issues with playbacks too, but eventually worked out...
i tried like 3 times and the last one worked
was pretty worried since then
Chad wrote:hmm, i don't think that's the problem. Since i think i also have the old wolf106 roms too because i don't get an error when playing back.
well wolfmame128 says the rom isn't good, but i play it at wolfplus106
Re: Power Instinct 3
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:40 pm
by DeFrenZ
So, what about it, in the end?