Moderator: Chad
We need a rule that forbids uploading using out of date ROMs.WIP:
- 0.75: Merge all gfx1 roms to rom sbros-1.41 (512kb). Correct Z80 CPU2 clock speed to 6MHz and YM3812 to 3MHz and monitor/video frequency to 57.5 Hz.
I agreed but what's of old uploads ?Buttermaker wrote:We need a rule that forbids uploading using out of date ROMs.WIP:
- 0.75: Merge all gfx1 roms to rom sbros-1.41 (512kb). Correct Z80 CPU2 clock speed to 6MHz and YM3812 to 3MHz and monitor/video frequency to 57.5 Hz.
They will stay of course.Francois Daniel wrote:I agreed but what's of old uploads ?
Why would it matter whether you know it or not?Chad wrote:I disagree, if you were that intelligent about knowing that your current romset was out of date then you proly would have the new roms. So the only way you could break this rule (knowingly upload an older rom set) was if you had the new roms which you would use anyway. Thus anytime you broke the rule you wouldn't really know it.
Of course it should be imposed. Why should somebody with up to date ROMs go looking for old ROMs if he wants to watch a recording? I'm not talking about old recordings. I mean uploads should be made with up to date ROMs only.It takes some doing to actually figure out you have the romset, usually it's after the fact you've made the recording and thus not really a responsibility thing unless you are keeping uptodate with roms at all times (not really a requirement we should impose.)
The snowbros ROMs changed in .75. If you play this back in .70 this happens:Btw, these both playback correctly to advertised scores with latest snowbros roms
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Playing back previously recorded game snowbros (Snow Bros. - Nick & Tom (set 1))
[press return]
ch0 NOT FOUND
ch1 NOT FOUND
ch2 NOT FOUND
ch3 NOT FOUND
ERROR: required files are missing, the game cannot be run.because right now you are making recordings on roms that are GOING to change and you don't know it, should your recordings now be disqualified? The other point is that he made these recordings a long time ago and uploaded them now. They would have been accepted with out question with the rule you mention if they were uploaded when tgmame70 was the latest and greatest, why disqualify them now? (other than dq them for slowdown i mean...)Buttermaker wrote:Why would it matter whether you know it or not?Chad wrote:I disagree, if you were that intelligent about knowing that your current romset was out of date then you proly would have the new roms. So the only way you could break this rule (knowingly upload an older rom set) was if you had the new roms which you would use anyway. Thus anytime you broke the rule you wouldn't really know it.
because mame changes roms, it's a fact of life.Buttermaker wrote:Of course it should be imposed. Why should somebody with up to date ROMs go looking for old ROMs if he wants to watch a recording? I'm not talking about old recordings. I mean uploads should be made with up to date ROMs only.It takes some doing to actually figure out you have the romset, usually it's after the fact you've made the recording and thus not really a responsibility thing unless you are keeping uptodate with roms at all times (not really a requirement we should impose.)
this didn't happen for me using tgmame70, so i'm assuming the new rom "update" removed these files, i don't remove old roms from my roms if they are not replacements. this is probably fault of a rom manager not the uploader.Buttermaker wrote:The snowbros ROMs changed in .75. If you play this back in .70 this happens:Btw, these both playback correctly to advertised scores with latest snowbros romsCode: Select all
Playing back previously recorded game snowbros (Snow Bros. - Nick & Tom (set 1)) [press return] ch0 NOT FOUND ch1 NOT FOUND ch2 NOT FOUND ch3 NOT FOUND ERROR: required files are missing, the game cannot be run.
Of course not! I already said it in this thread but I'm gonna repeat it for you: If a recording was made with up to date ROMs at the time it was uploaded everything is all right.Chad wrote:because right now you are making recordings on roms that are GOING to change and you don't know it, should your recordings now be disqualified?
Well, that's his problem. Maybe in this case you could say he used up to date ROMs when he made the recording so it's all right but still...The other point is that he made these recordings a long time ago and uploaded them now.
correctThey would have been accepted with out question with the rule you mention if they were uploaded when tgmame70 was the latest and greatest,
Should such a rule be implemented we'd have to think about what to do in such a case.why disqualify them now?
Hehe, the reason I wanted to watch it was because he mentioned fskp 0 in his description. I expected it to be too slow.(other than dq them for slowdown i mean...)
That makes sense for old uploads but not for current uploads.because mame changes roms, it's a fact of life.
Somebody who keeps a perfect set won't be able to play it back. Imagine everybody upped inps using old roms only...this didn't happen for me using tgmame70, so i'm assuming the new rom "update" removed these files, i don't remove old roms from my roms if they are not replacements. this is probably fault of a rom manager not the uploader.
aarongiles.com wrote:Well, just in time for Thanksgiving, we have a new CHD format. The next version of MAME will require you to update your CHDs. Now don't worry, you can do it yourself using the chdman utility (formerly known as hdcomp).
and why is indiana jones mimicing innuendo?
