T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

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T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby giro-X » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:18 am

(Apologize for a delay in posting the thread in the defined time - it took me more than expected to prepare the page. A lesson learned for future.)

Game selection

All users (who desire to play then in the tournament, but also not) are invited to vote for the games they would like to be played in the first period of the tournament.
All games voted will be sorted in a list, divided by genre. The four games that will be chosen for the tournament, will be extracted following this procedure:
-random extraction of 4 genres;
-random extraction of one title from each of the 4 genres previously extracted.

From December 1st to 14th, players/users are allowed to vote.
From December 15th to January 4th, coordinator and users all can discuss about the games voted (to decide how they can be divided in genres, if they are worth to be considered, etc.) using this thread.
One hour before the tournament beginning in January 5th, games will be extracted. Communication of the chosen games will coincide with the beginning of the tournament.

How to vote

The user can express up to three (3) preferences in a reply to this thread. The user is not obliged anyhow to express 3 preferences, but can vote also for one or two games only. Only one comment with votes is allowed for users, so think carefully before submitting your choices. The comments can't be edited as well; if you do it, the original votes will be reported.

The tournament coordinator can not vote. (kind of obvious)

Please express your votes by stating, at least, the ROMset name of the game (for WolfMAME 0.151)(**), to avoid any sort of misunderstanding. For any doubt or question about the correct ROMset name of a defined title, send a question here or by PM to me BEFORE voting.
If a game has multiple game modalities (see example below made on Puzzle Bobble 2), you have to choose one of the modalities.
(**): Version of WolfMAME to use is updated to 0.152 (released on Dec. 24th); no changes in the involved ROMset names.

Games you can vote

It is suggested to vote for max. three different games, but since the extraction method will pick in any case four games of different genres, you are also allowed to insert two/three clones/versions/modalities of the same game. During the discussion phase that will follow, if we state that two versions are too similar or practically identical, the "surplus" will be removed from the list.
Example: Puzzle Bobble 2 and Puzzle Bobble 2X have different patterns, so both could be voted, or the Puzzle mode and VS CPU mode could be voted, of course they would count as 2 votes of the 3 allowed. I took this example because pbobble2 and clones are disallowed (already played).

Q: Can we vote for different settings? (like hardest, max. 3 lives, etc.)
A: No, you can not. As stated in the general rules, the default MAME settings will be used.

Games you can NOT vote for, are:
-Games already played in recent MARP tournaments (you can see the list below) AND THEIR CLONES
-Not working games
-Games that belong to one of these genres: Fruit Machines, Casino, Pinball, Quiz, Mahjong, Hanafuda. If a game is not considered proper for a tournament, that will be discussed in the later phase.
-Banned games from MARP (click here to view)

List of games played in recent MARP tournaments
(I'm sorry if I listed the name of a parent and a clone has been played, or viceversa. It doesn't have much importance: as I said above, clones of these games can't be voted.)

T12
Mad Shark [madshark]
Galaga (Namco Rev. B) [galaga]
Punch-Out!! [punchout]
Snacks 'n Jaxson [snakjack]
Chopper I (US set 1) [chopper]
Libble Rabble [liblrabl]
Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi (2003/01/01. Master Ver.) [ket]
Pooyan [pooyan]
Squash (Ver. 1.0) [squash]
Kung-Fu Master (World) [kungfum]

T11
The Tower of Druaga (New Ver.) [todruaga]
Varth: Operation Thunderstorm (World 920714) [varth]
Ali Baba and 40 Thieves [alibaba]
Raiden (set 1) [raiden]
Rygar (US set 1) [rygar]
Combat School (joystick) [combatsc]
Eliminator (2 Players, set 1) [elim2]
Psychic 5 (set 1) [psychic5]

T10
Dungeon Magic (Ver 2.1O 1994/02/18) [dungeonm]
Rompers (Japan) [rompers]
Wacko [wacko]
Popeye (revision F) [popeyef]
Mario Bros. (US, Revision F) [mario]
Super Zaxxon (315-5013) [szaxxon]
Darkstalkers: The Night Warriors (Euro 940705) [dstlk]
DonPachi (Japan) [donpachij]

T9
Acrobat Mission [acrobatm]
The Punisher (World 930422) [punisher]
Puzz Loop 2 (Japan 010226) [pzloop2j]
Rip Off [ripoff]
Road Fighter (set 1) [roadf]
Wonder Boy in Monster Land (Japan New Ver., MC-8123, 317-0043) [wbml]
X-Men: Children of the Atom (Euro 950331) [xmcota]
Naname de Magic! (Japan) [naname]

T8
Double Dragon (Neo-Geo) [doubledr]
Goal! '92 [goal92]
Oh My God! (Japan) [ohmygod]
Pot of Gold [potogold]
Rampage (Rev 3, 8/27/86) [rampage]
Wonder Boy III - Monster Lair (set 6, World, System 16B, 8751 317-0098) [wb3]
Xybots (rev 2) [xybots]
Zektor (revision B) [zektor]

WCC9 and WCC8
Dimahoo (Euro 000121) [dimahoo]
Lup Lup Puzzle / Zhuan Zhuan Puzzle (version 3.0 / 990128) [luplup]
Versus Net Soccer (ver EAD) [vsnetscr]
Marvel Super Heroes (Euro 951024) [msh]
Buggy Boy/Speed Buggy (cockpit) [buggyboy]
Jumping Break [jmpbreak]

K10
Cosmo Gang the Video (US) [cosmogng]
Hang-On (Rev A) [hangon]
Ghostlop (prototype) [ghostlop]
Snow Bros. - Nick & Tom (set 1) [snowbros]
Metamorphic Force (ver JAA) [metamrphj]
Grobda (New Ver.) [grobda]
Street Fighter III 3rd Strike: Fight for the Future (Japan 990608, NO CD) [sfiii3n]
Tetris the Absolute The Grand Master 2 Plus [tgm2p]

K9
Magical Crystals (World, 92/01/10) [mgcrystl]
Go Go! Mile Smile [gogomile]
Slap Fight (Japan set 1) [slapfigh]
Super Street Fighter II Turbo (World 940223) [ssf2t]
Donkey Kong (US set 1) [dkong]
Cadillacs and Dinosaurs (World 930201) [dino]
Black Tiger [blktiger]
Great 1000 Miles Rally: U.S.A Version! (94/09/06) [gtmrusa]
Toobin' (rev 3) [toobin]
Food Fight (rev 3) [foodf]

K8
Bubble Memories: The Story Of Bubble Bobble III (Ver 2.3J 1996/02/07) [bubblemj]
Vandyke (Japan) [vandyke]
Chiki Chiki Boys (Japan 900619) [chikij]
Puzzle Bobble 2 (Ver 2.2J 1995/07/20) [pbobble2j]
Ninja Master's - haoh-ninpo-cho [ninjamas]
Turbo Force (old revision) [turbofrc]
World Rally (set 1) [wrally]
Pipe Dream (Japan) [pipedrmj]

TT2013
Out Zone [outzone]
Pitfall II (315-5093) [pitfall2]
Power Drift (World, Rev A) [pdrift]
The King of Dragons (World 910805) [kod]
Pac-Mania [pacmania]

TT2011
Knights of the Round (World 911127) [knights]
Puzzled / Joy Joy Kid (NGM-021)(NGH-021) [joyjoy]
Joust (White/Green label) [joust]
Vs. Slalom [vsslaom]
Galaxian (Namco set 1) [galaxian]

Main rules and dates post: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15249
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby giro-X » Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:21 am

As stated in the main rules, if it happens that two users vote the same game (romset), such votes will be considered as one. So yes, it's useless to vote a game already voted, it won't help to get major probabilities to be picked.

If you have experiences with arcade forums of your country, and lately you have played several games in tournaments reserved to those forums, then I encourage you, for the sake of sportmanship, to not vote for games of those tournament. No control will be done about this, but let's be fair :)
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby Fordy » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:15 am

well let's get things started then:

Cosmo [cosmo]
Space Position [spcpostn]
Mustache Boy [mustache]
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby Krj » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:24 am

Bomberman [bombrman]
Bubble Symphony [bubsymphj]
Flying Power Disk [wjammers]
Could we use japan bios?
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby PG3 » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:30 am

Violent Storm (ver JAC) - viostormj
Sunset Riders (4 Players ver EAC) - ssriders
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers (World 930911) - ssf2
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby simpsons99 » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:31 am

Donkey Kong Junior
Space Fire Bird
Phoenix
Dark Tower
Berzerk Set 2 Slow Bullets
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby giro-X » Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:11 pm

Krj wrote:Bomberman [bombrman]
Bubble Symphony [bubsymphj]
Flying Power Disk [wjammers]
Could we use japan bios?

If there is a japanese clone of the game, it can be chosen instead of the World/Europe, of course. If instead you refer to internal settings, like it may be the Japan MVS for Neo-Geo, then no.
You anyhow made your choices already so, perhaps it was better to ask this before :P

simpsons99 wrote:Donkey Kong Junior
Space Fire Bird
Phoenix
Dark Tower
Berzerk Set 2 Slow Bullets

I suppose the romsets you refer to are: dkongjr, spacefb, phoenix, darktowr, berzerk1.
I'm sorry but I have to remember that you can vote up to max. three choices :( so please choose two of them to exclude
I don't know still how Berzerk works, but if "slow bullets" is a dipswitch then we can't adopt it. All games in default settings ;)
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby CrazyKongFan » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:08 pm

giro-X wrote:I don't know still how Berzerk works, but if "slow bullets" is a dipswitch then we can't adopt it. All games in default settings ;)


slow and fast bullets are separate romsets, not dispwitch settings.
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby giro-X » Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:02 pm

CrazyKongFan wrote:
giro-X wrote:I don't know still how Berzerk works, but if "slow bullets" is a dipswitch then we can't adopt it. All games in default settings ;)


slow and fast bullets are separate romsets, not dispwitch settings.

Okay, got it :)
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby Kale » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:42 pm

giro-X wrote:Games you can NOT vote for, are:
-Banned games from MARP (click here to view)



That list is embarrassingly outdated, especially on the broken / does not playback section ...

(going to vote once that I have a bunch of ideas ...)
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby simpsons99 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:50 pm

giro-X wrote:
Krj wrote:Bomberman [bombrman]
Bubble Symphony [bubsymphj]
Flying Power Disk [wjammers]
Could we use japan bios?

If there is a japanese clone of the game, it can be chosen instead of the World/Europe, of course. If instead you refer to internal settings, like it may be the Japan MVS for Neo-Geo, then no.
You anyhow made your choices already so, perhaps it was better to ask this before :P

simpsons99 wrote:Donkey Kong Junior
Space Fire Bird
Phoenix
Dark Tower
Berzerk Set 2 Slow Bullets

I suppose the romsets you refer to are: dkongjr, spacefb, phoenix, darktowr, berzerk1.
I'm sorry but I have to remember that you can vote up to max. three choices :( so please choose two of them to exclude
I don't know still how Berzerk works, but if "slow bullets" is a dipswitch then we can't adopt it. All games in default settings ;)


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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby giro-X » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:15 pm

Kale wrote:
giro-X wrote:Games you can NOT vote for, are:
-Banned games from MARP (click here to view)



That list is embarrassingly outdated, especially on the broken / does not playback section ...

(going to vote once that I have a bunch of ideas ...)


:? hmmm
You're more acknowledged than me on this. Among that list, which games should be "still" banned, if you know?
(or which shouldn't, if it's easier to answer to :D )
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby mahlemiut » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:37 pm

Certainly, anything archived (or *ed) shouldn't be used. Pretty much all those non-working or non-playbackable games are working fine now (a lot has happened in the 13 years since that page was last updated).

Some testing, looking for confirmed scores, and checking for special rules will all help.
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby simpsons99 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:38 pm

If games do not work before why are they being questioned for games for this event? Let's stick with games that are known to work perfectly?
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Re: T13 - Games selection (for 1st period)

Postby giro-X » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:59 pm

simpsons99 wrote:If games do not work before why are they being questioned for games for this event? Let's stick with games that are known to work perfectly?


Let's move with common sense. If you know that a game doesn't work properly or has playback issues, simply guess that you could not vote it. If this happens, we will anyhow find out any irregularity in the discussion period.
(Bad english but I hope the meaning of my message could arrive :wink: )


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